re: NFL asst coach Adam Zimmer’s death caused by alcohol abuse

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You'd be surprised how many functioning alcoholics there are walking around, doing their job everyday

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One of the best electricians I ever worked around you couldn't stand downwind of him and he'd sleep at lunch in the port-o-cans.

His equipment always passed inspection and he was meticulous as shite.

Finally sobered up and lost like 75lbs.

Well the United States still has zero official deaths from the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

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That’s what I mean. To kill your body at 38 from alcohol is absurd. I can’t imagine how much he was drinking

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Probably not as much as you’d think. It only takes about 40 grams (about 1 1/2 ounces of hard liquor or a 12 ounce beer) of alcohol on a daily basis to cause liver damage.

Having dealt with functioning alcoholics in therapy and personally, I think folks would be surprised how well they can function. It’s when their immune system starts to become suppressed that it really starts to go off the rails.

Duff McKagan from Guns N Roses was hospitalized at age 30 for his drinking and almost died.

ETA: it wasn’t one night of insanely hard drinking. He had developed pancreatitis.

He was lucky enough to be hospitalized and treated by experts as he had withdrawal.

He stopped drinking and made a full recovery and as far as I can tell, is in very good health as he is near 60.

I think there is certainly a genetic component to it. There are likely people who are 55-60 who drank as much as Duff or Zimmer, but kept drinking for 15-20 more years. But people can absolutely drink themselves to death before 40.

What does death from this look like?

You just go to bed & not wake up?

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Dying of alcohol abuse at 38. Holy shite how did he function enough to hold a job?

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Would have been me. Was a raging alcoholic and coke head for 11 years. Case of beer and pint of vodka/tequila every single day toward the last 5. Very thankful to be 2 in half years sober. But you know what? Even just a few weeks ago on the way home from work I stopped at the liquor store and just sat there. It's unbelievable the fricking grip the substance still has on me sometimes. Hopefully Mr. Zimmer has found some peace. Sad stuff

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That’s what I mean. To kill your body at 38 from alcohol is absurd. I can’t imagine how much he was drinking

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Not really. I’ve seen guys in their late 20s in liver failure.

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anti vax conspiracy theories

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Yeah -- how could *anyone NOT believe "vax conspiracy" couldn't possibly be afoot?? Only NUTS and "conspirators" believe that.

Dr Fauci and the CDC send their Christmas propaganda and vax death cover regards (along with array of 2023 'Variant-Boosters') to all you True Believers in "muh-Science."

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Love what you’re doing in this thread. Keep it up

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You mean not engaging in echo-chamber, one-dimension takes like most everyone else?

I'm trying, bruh.

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Even just a few weeks ago on the way home from work I stopped at the liquor store and just sat there. It's unbelievable the fricking grip the substance still has on me sometimes.

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I'm glad that you decided to drive away instead of walking through those doors.

I'm over 6 years sober and pretty much live life normally now. I went to a concert a few weeks ago and everyone was drinking and I didn't think anything of it. Never crossed my mind.

That said, just last night I accidently began walking down the wine/beer aisle in the grocery store and basically covered my eyes and retreated. That is one thing I absolutely will not do these days. I'm terrified of it.
That aisle in any supermarket sounds my alarms and I feel it deep within my bones. It affects me like no other scenario.

Stay strong, my brother. Keep fighting the good fight.