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re: NFL and Head Injuries, what about Rugby, Lacrosse, and boxing?
Posted on 5/9/12 at 11:32 am to Anodyne
Posted on 5/9/12 at 11:32 am to Anodyne
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If the NFL wants to reduce head trauma, it needs to get rid of helmets IMO. Sounds counter-intuitive, but rugby/aussey rules football don't have anywhere near the number of long term issues as american football, or so I am told.
This is an interesting idea - but one of the reasons football went to more protective helmets (instead of the old leather ones) was people dying of skull fractures.
It is a pick your poison issue to some extent. You can avoid deaths from skull fractures by making everyone wear helmets - but you probably then get more forceful impacts with the head used as a weapon (which in turn probably results in more brain injuries over time)
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Posted on 5/9/12 at 11:35 am to Sophandros
soccer players get cumulative brain injuries from heading the ball.
I saw an article on it in sports illustrated more than a decade ago.
I saw an article on it in sports illustrated more than a decade ago.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 11:39 am to VerlanderBEAST
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The whole wrapping up thing is stupid not every situation calls for a tackle some call for a hit.
You can still hit hard while wrapping up.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 11:42 am to saderade
Here is something that never gets brought up, how about fining offensive players for bracing for contact by lowering their head. Why don't they have to take any responsibility? Its stupid to expect a 6'3 linebacker to hit low on a 5'11 WR or RB when the guy is already 4 inches shorter and then braces for contact making himself 4 feet.
The only difference between THIS and THIS is Sidney Rice had time to brace himself and get low while Reggie Bush didn't yet some how one hit is "dirty" and the other isn't.
It sounds crazy but if you want to stop helmet to helmet fine offensive players for not giving up their torso.
The only difference between THIS and THIS is Sidney Rice had time to brace himself and get low while Reggie Bush didn't yet some how one hit is "dirty" and the other isn't.
It sounds crazy but if you want to stop helmet to helmet fine offensive players for not giving up their torso.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 11:45 am to VerlanderBEAST
Va Tech, Stanford and PSU are working on G force sensor in helmets that rely the info to sideline and or press box
Posted on 5/9/12 at 11:47 am to Anodyne
Not a strawman argument at all.
As another poster pointed out, the NFL, as recently as 2006, claimed that concussions were not a serious injury concern in the sport. The league, until very recently, ignored the impact of brain trauma, and teams routinely encouraged (some would even imply forced) players to play on through head injuries. Here's an interesting take on it: LINK
The NFL (and college and high school football) has cultivated a culture that turned a blind eye to head trauma. In that way, they are virtually identical to the mining company who disregarded safety warnings, paid off inspectors, and willingly exposed their employees to unnecessary risk for the sake of profit.
As another poster pointed out, the NFL, as recently as 2006, claimed that concussions were not a serious injury concern in the sport. The league, until very recently, ignored the impact of brain trauma, and teams routinely encouraged (some would even imply forced) players to play on through head injuries. Here's an interesting take on it: LINK
The NFL (and college and high school football) has cultivated a culture that turned a blind eye to head trauma. In that way, they are virtually identical to the mining company who disregarded safety warnings, paid off inspectors, and willingly exposed their employees to unnecessary risk for the sake of profit.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 11:50 am to Sophandros
I think you should come up with some kind of middle ground on the helmets...ultra light weight helmets without facemasks that will protect from impact but also will not allow for guys to spear people. They would protect against whiplash type collisions on the ground after a hit, but won't make a guy feel invincible.
This post was edited on 5/9/12 at 11:51 am
Posted on 5/9/12 at 12:05 pm to Anodyne
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The NFL is more closely akin to mining for coal with a fracking operation next door. They are fully aware of the risks and take them because of the pay.
Not only did Soph point out that perhaps the NFL has not been as open with the danger of head injuries but what about the situation the NFL allowed to develop in the locker room and on the sidelines.
We all know that on any given play some contact may happen to cause a concussion. The bigger issue for me is what happens next.
The NFL has to take some responsibility for the fact that it wasn't till last year they took the examination and decision making responsibility for players who suffered those injuries out of the hands of the players, coaches and team doctors.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 1:47 pm to jacks40
Lacrosse is a good comp at the high school level, and it has a dramatically lower number of concussions per 100,000 games. The reason for this is simple: you can't hit someone in the head without a penalty. Blows to the head are an automatic flag, and you can't use your stick as a weapon to the head. Sure, players skirt the rules and you can find blows to the head that went unflagged, but by rule, they were flags. You can find many blows to the head in football that were not only unpenalized, but perfectly legal.
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