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re: NCAA should not pay players; debate me:
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:28 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:28 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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The entire point of the NCAA is to assist student athletes. What a stupid arguement.
And you are suggesting it do something to reward the 1 percent of players, at the expense of the 99 percent.
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:29 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:Exactly. I just about couldn't care less how talented the players are. If it's LSU vs. Alabama under a system where both schools have a somewhat fair chance of defeating the other, I'm in. I don't really care if college football consists of one-star players across the board. Now if the five-star players want to go form some type of minor league to get paid, I'm probably not going to watch and am not interested (and most people will be the same way). It is "LSU" and "Alabama" that have the most market value, not the individual players in college athletics.
You can’t complain about the earners, without also complaining about the takers. If you want to blow up the system, then blow it up. Let’s see how much market value these players actually have.
I think you’ll find it’s very little.
It's silly to think they would when, right now, there are more talented players playing in the CFL and Arena Leagues (and soon the AAFL and the XFL) and I can pretty much guarantee none of those are or will be as popular as college football, despite having more talented players.
Some players here and there, like Manziel or Tebow, may have a little for a while but it's really a very small percentage.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:35 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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at the expense of the 99 percent
There is no added expense by letting players that are able to profit off of their likeness. Do you know what expense means?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:38 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:
The entire point of the NCAA is to assist student athletes. What a stupid arguement.
Not that I’m defending the NCAA but isn’t that what they are already doing? Student Athletes receive all kinds of assistance in varying forms. They only thing they don’t receive is the extensive revenue.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:14 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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There is no added expense by letting players that are able to profit off of their likeness. Do you know what expense means?
The law of unintended consequences tells me you have no idea what would happen were that to be allowed. The NCAA has a successful product with no need to risk it, just to reward a handful of players. What is their motivation?
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:06 am to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:disingenuous... he would drop artificially in the draft if he did so...
Every student-athlete has options. James Wiseman committed to Memphis today. Why did he do that? He could easily sign with an agent, spend a year working out and prepping for the NBA combines and be a guaranteed lottery pick next year.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:18 am to G The Tiger Fan
quote:a lot of people do... put D3 talent in SEC colors and watch how quickly the stadiums empty
I just about couldn't care less how talented the players are.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 6:25 am to chalmetteowl
If the talent is still equally distributed, you are wrong.
If all of D1 suddenly had D3 talent, you would see no difference because it’s all relative.
If all of D1 suddenly had D3 talent, you would see no difference because it’s all relative.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 6:51 am to chalmetteowl
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disingenuous... he would drop artificially in the draft if he did so...
I love this argument. He is being exploited and used by the NCAA, but if he doesn’t go to the NCAA, he is harmed by not getting the benefits of NCAA exposure.
It’s also bullshite. That year of college basketball could expose him as a fraud, or it could elevate him. That’s why the NBA has the rule to begin with - it gives them an extra year of scouting and competition.
It’s a gamble to play the year. It’s a gamble to not play the year. That’s life.
I personally think if you are basically a guaranteed top 5 pick, you are a fool for playing college basketball.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 8:05 am to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:then why don't the D3s draw 100,000 fans? Since the competition is relatively even and they love their school like LSU
If all of D1 suddenly had D3 talent, you would see no difference because it’s all relative.
This post was edited on 11/21/18 at 8:06 am
Posted on 11/21/18 at 8:10 am to chalmetteowl
quote:He could also go overseas and play against grown men and make some money
disingenuous... he would drop artificially in the draft if he did so...
Posted on 11/21/18 at 8:21 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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There is no added expense by letting players that are able to profit off of their likeness. Do you know what expense means?
It would be very easy to make the argument that the entire product would be at risk if this were allowed to happen given that it would encourage the buying of players under the pretense that the player is making money off his likeness.
Also, the NCAA doesn't prevent players from making money on their likeness. It only sets eligibility rules within the NCAA should the player do so. Any player could decide to "cash in". Doing so would result in ineligibility.
Yet, we never see it. Why? I think the answer is pretty obvious. The ability to cash in is directly related to being able to play within the NCAA. In other words, the players' value without the NCAA is very, very limited. In other words, it's the NCAA which brings the value to the table.
Quit being such a bleeding heart. Everything that is going on in NCAA Athletics is voluntary.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 8:43 am to moneyg
Yes, a perfect example of this is that after a player is done playing for a school, no one wants his jersey or his autograph (at least not enough for there to be any real value).
If Devin White set up a table in the mall in Baton Rouge the day after the season ended and started selling gear and autographs, the response would be very small.
If Devin White set up a table in the mall in Baton Rouge the day after the season ended and started selling gear and autographs, the response would be very small.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 8:46 am to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:Probably a horrible example considering he is going to be a 1st round draft pick. If you had used someone like Giles (who if he could get paid, would have made bank when he wanted to transfer) it would have gone over better. However, using a projected early round draft pick will have value.
If Devin White set up a table in the mall in Baton Rouge the day after the season ended and started selling gear and autographs, the response would be very small.
This post was edited on 11/21/18 at 8:48 am
Posted on 11/21/18 at 8:47 am to chalmetteowl
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then why don't the D3s draw 100,000 fans? Since the competition is relatively even and they love their school like LSU
Don't be obtuse. All teams are not equal in fan support, even on the D1 level or professional level. There is varied level of fan support at all levels of sports worldwide.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 8:55 am to tduecen
Tell me about all your Morris Claiborne gear?
Posted on 11/21/18 at 8:59 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Morris Claiborne right after college could have sold the frick out of gear, hell he could still probably do so since he is still playing in the NFL and considered a great Tiger. There is a reason people still ask Rohan Davey, Kevin Faulk, etc for autographs when they notice them.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 9:31 am to moneyg
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The NCAA should do whatever is in its best interest.
The NCAA is a non-profit and by definition should not be operating in its own self interest, but in the interest of its mission.
And it's mission is the organization of AMATEUR sports. When it does that, it's fine. However, the NCAA (or more specifically its member institutions) are operating the revenue sports as a pseudo professional league. There's a difference between selling tickets to cover some overhead, and trying to extract every dime imaginable out of a product.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 9:39 am to pvilleguru
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Agreed, but they should allow players to get paid.
Yep. One of the most hypocritical institutions in America. Making billions off young adults sacrificing their bodies, and not allowing them to make any taxable income for that sacrifice. This arrangement will end soon though.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 11:14 am to tigerpimpbot
No it won't. There is zero desire among the NCAA and school presidents for this to happen. It's a complete non-starter and is not even being discussed.
Do you know something no one else knows?
Do you know something no one else knows?
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