re: NCAA says California schools could be banned from championships if bill isn't dropped

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good. We dont need to waste time watching the shite conferences

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says a fan of a team whose district hasn
't won a state title since 85 and whose team hasn't been to semifinals since lyndon johnson was president

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This website by and large loves capitalism very much. Then you see these threads come up and people suddenly are against players being compensated what the market is willing to give them

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we’re talking about universities. Nothing about the whole system is a free market. If it was, athletics departments wouldn’t be forced to spend thousands on sports with no chance of a return, and many athletics departments would’ve shut down long ago.

Also let’s not pretend this is the only area in college people are paid well below their market value.

Doctors going through residency, future professors student teaching. Hell when I was in school, I helped a professor license a technology worth thousands for the school and got a book stipend in return.

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says a fan of a team whose district hasn
't won a state title since 85 and whose team hasn't been to semifinals since lyndon johnson was president

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and look at the attendance for our games lol... People quit watching that shite

Btw our district had state championships in 2000, 2012, and 2016 and made the finals in 2015.

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Its ridiculous that kids cant make money off of their name.

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Yep

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Yeah I think we’ve got to find an alternate route for the players wanting to make professional money immediately. NBA will have that fixed in 2022, but the NFL is the main issue. There is no option.

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There is only no option because the players would prefer to play in the NCAA rather than play in some other league that nobody cares about.

This is self evident because otherwise, a league like that would have spawned up and gained popularity. But, anyone who is honest knows that "minor league" football wouldn't be popular.

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This website by and large loves capitalism very much. Then you see these threads come up and people suddenly are against players being compensated what the market is willing to give them

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The problem is the NCAA is set up for parity, not to be an efficient market for players to maximize their monetary value. Not everything that exists within a free market has to be set up as one.

What people seem to ignore is that none of these players are required to play in the NCAA in order to be pros. It’s simply the most effective route for the majority to getting to a professional league. The pro leagues value the training these kids get from college experience, clearly. And the kids (and market) do too or else another avenue would have been opened up by now. That is hardly the NCAA’s fault, and they should be free to set up parameters however they feel is appropriate.

In theory, it’s a great idea to let kids make money off their likeness. That is, sign an autograph or sell a game jersey because they are a great player. However, it would quickly be cheapened and kids would be paid for what they can do, rather than what they have done. The top 10-20 programs would play ball and all the rest would subside into obscurity.

Lastly, the appeal of college sports has always been that these kids are amateurs. Kids getting openly paid would tip the scales and would change the game as we know it.

Now whether you agree with this being the best direction is a matter of opinion, but I think it is hard to argue that this will indeed be the direction.

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These players aren't worth anything without the NCAA.

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let's be honest, Zion Williamson would have got a big contract from some Euro team or something last year. Lamelo Ball got paid in Lithuania. Anyone who thinks this needs to amend it to "most" players

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Except he does, because professional leagues have determined arbitrary age requirements to join their leagues and there are no viable alternatives for him before he reaches the arbitrary age limit.

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Why should the NCAA be forced to change their rules because of this?

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I'm guessing your argument is that he could choose to just not play college athletics, and forgo the chance to showcase his skills at the amateur level. To which, I would say what purpose does that serve? His choices are play for less than what the market dictates or do not play at all. I think if any of us were faced with the same conundrum, we would be screaming foul also.

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All of us face barriers in maximizing earning potential. shite college is one of them for a lot of us. Most professions have college requirements. Is that the fault of the college or the entity responsible for mandating it?

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like how the NCAA thinks it can BAN all of the most populous state in the country and not delegitimize itself

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there are 49 other ones

It's a scare/intimidation tactic by the NCAA.

The NCAA would never have the balls to try to take on California. They only choose to push around small, rural states.