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Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:35 pm to RonBurgundy
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:35 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Crowder
Barnes
Ariza
Carroll
Aminu
thats your top 5 rank them how you wish
Just because Durant, LBJ, Kawhi, George, Butler, and Green have other skills, can play other positions, that doesnt mean they aren't also technically 3 and D SF's.
GTFO haha.
Ariza is solid but the only way he is top 5 3 and D is by making the sort of logical gymnastics to exclude clearly superior players at his position because they are more diverse, better SF's that can do more then just 3 and D. Which is just ridiculous.
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:35 pm to Boomshockalocka
What about R. Covington? Philly already has him and he is a pretty highly regarded 3 and D S..
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:35 pm to whatiknowsofar
Kawhi aint a fooking 3 and D sf, neither is Durant.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:36 pm to brmark70816
quote:
What about R. Covington? Philly already has him and he is a pretty highly regarded 3 and D S..
On a steal of a contract as well.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:36 pm to NOLA Bronco
quote:Stop.
Just because Durant, LBJ, Kawhi, George, Butler, and Green have other skills, can play other positions, that doesnt mean they aren't also technically 3 and D SF's. GTFO haha. Ariza is solid but the only way he is top 5 3 and D is by making the sort of logical gymnastics to exclude clearly superior players at his position.
3 and D refers to guys who does pretty much only those 2 things.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:36 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Crowder
Barnes
Ariza
Carroll
Aminu
thats your top 5 rank them how you wish
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:37 pm to NOLA Bronco
3 and D SF is commonly referred to as guys who aren't creators offensively, shoot the 3 and play strong defense. Sorry but Superstars/max contract guys aren't a 3 and D player. and we arent' comparing Ariza to those guys anyways.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:38 pm to shel311
Handle this shell I've got to step out for a minute the common sense is lacking with these guys. 
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:39 pm to NOLA Bronco
Ariza isn't even a top 80 player in the league when it comes to defensive win shares and we know that when it comes to ranking players DWS is one of, if not the most, important measures.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:40 pm to burdman
quote:
Ariza isn't even a top 80 player in the league when it comes to defensive win shares and we know that when it comes to ranking players DWS is one of, if not the most, important measures.
Not when it doesn't suit particular arguments. Then it isn't.
Context bro
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:41 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
3 and D SF is commonly referred to as guys who aren't creators offensively, shoot the 3 and play strong defense. Sorry but Superstars/max contract guys aren't a 3 and D player. and we arent' comparing Ariza to those guys anyways.
So, extremely limited guys that ain't worth shite? Got it. Isn't that the point you were arguing against?
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:41 pm to shel311
quote:
Stop.
3 and D refers to guys who does pretty much only those 2 things.
No, thats fricking retarded.
All of those guys can do 3 and D but you want to exclude them because they can do more then that? Thats not how analysis works....Hey guys! This player is top 5 if we exclude 5-6 guys who are clearly better then him at it.
You and Boom are both being ridiculous. You are actually coming off worse though because you are knighting for a troll.
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:43 pm to NOLA Bronco
Oh here we go again. Gotta shuffle through trash to get to something with substance. Not directed at Bronco, just a general statement.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:44 pm to NOLA Bronco
shite, c'mon guys, don't deteriorate this thread like yesterday
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:44 pm to Smoke7024
quote:
Oh here we go again. Gotta shuffle through trash to get to something with substance. Not directed at Bronco, just a general statement.
Yeah, we all fall into the trap when the screaming idiot shows up.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:44 pm to NOLA Bronco
quote:You think Boom and I are the only 2 using the term "3 and D?"
You and Boom are both being ridiculous
Ok
Saw your edit, but btw, what narrative am I feeding, exactly?
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:51 pm to NOLA Bronco
Dude don't even entertain them. They think they are geniuses at bending a narrative to fit their dumb arguments except 5 posters automatically call them out on being wrong.
Ariza was .02 percentage points above the league average in threes. And that's top five to you boom? You still want to keep doing this dumb dance you always do?
Anyways. Moving on. I hope my Pelicans make a move for an all star caliber player. If we want to win now we need a huge player. If not I hope we don't take a pg. I'd rather Heild or Brown.
Ariza was .02 percentage points above the league average in threes. And that's top five to you boom? You still want to keep doing this dumb dance you always do?
Anyways. Moving on. I hope my Pelicans make a move for an all star caliber player. If we want to win now we need a huge player. If not I hope we don't take a pg. I'd rather Heild or Brown.
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:52 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Boomshockalocka
As much as it pains me, you are right about the 3 and D versus superstar argument. I'd probably put Bazemore in the group, though. And you have to admit that Ariza has fallen off lately.
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