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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:21 am to
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:21 am to
I hope the Lakers land some big names - even Lebron (though they are more like to actually win a final series without him)
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:23 am to
So when do we actually expect dominoes to start falling? Tomorrow? Or do they hold off a little bit?
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Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:24 am to
Well I just joined the thread so...SOON
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Posted by philabuck
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:25 am to
Cavs are out of the luxury tax if Bron leaves so I imagine Gilbert's ego will want them to fight for a playoff spot.
Posted by tatervol
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:27 am to
Laker fans are okay with wasting one of the few years of LeBrons prime left unbelievable
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:27 am to
Huh
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:28 am to
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So when do we actually expect dominoes to start falling? Tomorrow? Or do they hold off a little bit?
Stuff usually happens right at 11:00 when free agency begins.

The dominoes of LeBron and Paul George are not going to fall tonight.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:31 am to
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This was when it looked like lebron needed a push. Now that all of the rumor is that lebron is coming regardless, I think it's weird that the Lakers are expected to negotiate against themselves
And until Lebron actually agrees to go to LA, San Antonio has no reason to not ask for the moon for Kawhi.

Not sure why you're taking such offense to the Spurs' posturing here, it's the most logical thing for them to do at this very moment in these circumstances.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:33 am to
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I mean is this your first time in this thread? Did you not see all of the Laker posters talking about being fine with Ingram in a trade a day or two ago?

Why do you think the Spurs should completely change their stance/asking price based on rumors?
Posted by floridatigah
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:34 am to
I remember when the Pacers were idiots for not taking Clarkson and a 1st for PG
Posted by GeauxTigers2020
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:35 am to
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Stuff usually happens right at 11:00 when free agency begins.

The dominoes of LeBron and Paul George are not going to fall tonight.


I guess it's possible that news will break, but you'll most likely see news on people like Trevor Ariza, Derrick Favors, etc.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:36 am to
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None of those 3 are close to a healthy Kawhi Leonard.
As well as none of those 3 were assumed to be an automatic long term investment by the teams they were traded to.

The fact that it's well known that Kawhi would likely sign that extension with LAL adds a wrinkle to his situation that the others didn't have.
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:37 am to
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Stuff usually happens right at 11:00 when free agency begins.


Yeah I remember Mitch and Jim’s big signing of Mozgov happened like 20 minutes after it started
Posted by floridatigah
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:40 am to
Listening to the Simmons podcast with Haralabob, it's incredible to hear Simmons get beaten down for an hour and a half
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:40 am to
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Not sure why you're taking such offense to the Spurs' posturing here,
the only part I think is absurd is them wanting us to pay them for lebron. If the Lakers said they were only interested in trading deng for Kawhi straight up, wouldn't you think that's absurd? Even if it was just posturing?
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Why do you think the Spurs should completely change their stance/asking price based on rumors?
I never said they would. But why should the Lakers be bent over a relative barrel for Kawhi when they may have already been told lebron is coming?
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 11:42 am
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:42 am to
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Listening to the Simmons podcast with Haralabob, it's incredible to hear Simmons get beaten down for an hour and a half

That was great.

Simmons overrates Tatum and especially Kyrie soooooo much. Then has the dude he probably respects the most on his NBA knowledge, and it just did not go how Simmons would have wanted it to.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:42 am to
I never said that
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:45 am to
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If the Lakers said they were only interested in trading deng for Kawhi straight up, wouldn't you think that's absurd? Even if it was just posturing?
Well that actually wouldn't make sense.

There has been reports. It may not be teh case today, but it is still possible that Lebron is pressuring LA to make a move first before he commits. The Spurs should operate under that assumption until something changes factually. So again, that makes sense, it's logical. Your Deng/Kawhi thing just doesn't make any sense comparably.

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I never said they would.
Not what I asked, I asked why SHOULD they?

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But why should the Lakers be bent over a relative barrel for Kawhi when they may have already been told lebron is coming?
I'm not saying they should, this portion of this debate really isn't directly about the Lakers. It's about the Spurs, and why it's so "insane" to keep asking for Ingram, when it's really the logical play until Lebron officially confirms he's headed to LA. SAS should just wait it out and keep asking for Ingram. I'm not saying what the Lakers should do, just stating that is what SAS should do.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:51 am to
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Trevor Lane
@Trevor_Lane

If my math is correct, w/ Zubac & Bryant (assuming) on the books Lakers would be slightly short of having enough cap space for James & George if they move Deng w/ no salary coming back and keep Randle’s cap hold. Would have enough if they stretch Deng and renounce Randle.

11:12 AM · Jun 30, 2018



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Could be a trade. $1.5 mil expiring to add as salary ballast. But also, Zubac was good as a rookie. Perhaps there is some hope he gets back on track. $1.5 mil is a small amount to risk
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 11:53 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:58 am to
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Your Deng/Kawhi thing just doesn't make any sense comparably.

and I would disagree. The Lakers could easily be getting info from lebron that hes coming and that they dont need to make a move. They can operating the same exact way, just from a different side. Doesnt make either more ridiculous imo
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Not what I asked, I asked why SHOULD they? 

they can ask for the moon all they want. Doesnt mean asking for a return for lebron is any less ridiculous imo
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It's about the Spurs, and why it's so "insane" to keep asking for Ingram
I didn't say it was insane to ask for Ingram. I said it's insane that Ingram is even on the table when no one else is offering a similar player. My point wasn't about the spurs. It was about all of us discussing a potential trade. They can do whatever the frick they want. The only truly ridiculous thing that I feel has come from this is them asking for a return for lebron
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