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re: NBA Free Agency Thread: Day 21

Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:09 pm to
Not sure if I missed it but what's up with Love for Wiggins? If it hasn't happened or isnt even being discussed anymore at this point, I gotta wonder what's going on there. Seems like it could or should be getting done if Cleveland is willing to get rid of Wiggins.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:11 pm to
Cleveland doesn't want to trade him.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62596 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:22 pm to
They should. You keep Wiggins, you provide an ideal nurturing situation with Kyrie and LeBron. In 2-3 years, he's probably at All-Star level. He's that good. At that point, you become the favorites to win the title. That's some good potential right there.


Or you could trade for Love right now and become to favorites to win the title right now. In a city incredibly desperate for a title, with a star who just came home, according to him, to satisfy that desperation.

fricking satisfy it! shite! Get Love! frick potential, you can be the best NOW.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:42 pm to
Random tweet from Iggy

quote:

That ended fast...
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61468 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:42 pm to
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I'll disagree until you can prove it.


Considering Dirk has done almost no endorsements and Wade has several high profile ones do you really need people to prove it?

Wade's current shoe deal with Chinese company Li Ming gets him $100 million alone.

He has also had deals with Gatorade, Nike, Converse, Staples, and T-Mobile all w/huge commercial pushes on TV.

Dirk, meanwhile, has a single small contract w/Nike b/c those are the shoes he prefers.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112841 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:43 pm to
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Cleveland doesn't want to trade him. 
risky
Posted by philabuck
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2008
10394 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:54 pm to
They have to find a third team to get the salary to work..
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 4:18 pm to
They are also going to be limited by the cap with three max players at that point.

If they wait until next offseason Cleveland may be able to get Love without losing Wiggins as Minnesota will have to worry about the Lakers getting him for nothing. Cleveland may be able to do a sign and trade of assets to Minnesota.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:11 pm to
They aren't rushing into this Love thing, nor should they.

If they sell out to get Love by trading Wiggins, in a couple of years they're facing the same problem Miami had this year. They will struggle to fill out the roster as those three max contracts dominate the cap space.

My thing is, they aren't likely winning the championship next year anyway. So just see how the roster comes together first then make a decision. This roster's upside is greater if Wiggins develops and they're able to add another piece next offseason.

It's a difference in philosophies and there are risks to both approaches.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:11 pm to
How stupid is Avery Johnson? He just said Stephenson was a triple double threat every time he steps on the court. He averages ~14/7/5 (9/4/3 for his career).

I know AJ can't speak English to save his life, but is LS really that good? I know he had a solid season and was an idiot on the court.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:13 pm to
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How stupid is Avery Johnson? He just said Stephenson was a triple double threat every time he steps on the court. He averages ~14/7/5 (9/4/3 for his career).


He did lead the league in triple-doubles, no?
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62596 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

If they sell out to get Love by trading Wiggins, in a couple of years they're facing the same problem Miami had this year.
No, because they are Cleveland and will have a championship. That's not a problem.
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It's a difference in philosophies and there are risks to both approaches.
Agreed and for most teams you don't do something rash. But this is Cleveland, you've got a short window with the GOAT to get your one and only championship. You have to go for it. IMO
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:13 pm to
He led the NBA in triple doubles last year


And sure LS has his flaws and is a little rough around the edges, but hes still just 23years old and has already established himself as 1 of the better 2 way players in the league.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 5:15 pm
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:13 pm to
He lead the league with 5 so I mean technically I guess it's right.

LeBron is a threat to get a triple double every night but I think he only had one or maybe non last season
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156451 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:14 pm to
Did he? That's basically why I asked this...is he a triple double threat every time he steps on the court? If anybody else had said it (and with proper grammar), I wouldn't have thought twice about it.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41017 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:14 pm to
He had more triple doubles than anyone this past season.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62596 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

How stupid is Avery Johnson? He just said Stephenson was a triple double threat every time he steps on the court. He averages ~14/7/5 (9/4/3 for his career).
He said he was a "threat". Those are fairly "threatening" for triple-double. Only one player in one season has ever averaged a triple-double in NBA history.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 5:15 pm
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62596 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:15 pm to
I love the way Avery talks btw.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156451 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:16 pm to
I love it in an entertaining way. But I find it hard to take him seriously at times because of how uneducated he sounds (I know he's not, but dammit he tries to sound like it).


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He said he was a "threat". Those are fairly "threatening" for triple-double. Only one player in one season has ever averaged a triple-double in NBA history.

I guess I can buy that. And I know he's not averaging a T/D, but the assists just seemed pretty low for someone who led the league in T/Ds. Maybe I'm overthinking it.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 5:20 pm
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:17 pm to
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how uneducated he sounds (I know he's not


He did graduate from the school that gave Mike Foster a law degree.
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