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re: NBA Finals Game 2 Thread: Heat 98 @ Spurs 96 FINAL. Series tied at 1
Posted on 6/8/14 at 11:52 pm to Dr. Shultz
Posted on 6/8/14 at 11:52 pm to Dr. Shultz
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As of right now, the Spurs are on fire from 3 and our playing great ball but have sloppy periods. While the heat's role players aren't doing shite and Lebron has been carrying the load the past 2 games while the rest of the team has been pretty cold. The Heat have much more room for improvement than the Spurs do if you ask me.
The Spurs shot ~40% from 3pt range during the reg. season and through the 20 playoff games they're shooting 173/429 ~40% as well. Take away 1-2 3pt shots from tonight, and add in a few of those shots uncharacteristic shots they missed (duncan's to end the half being one) and the game is still close.
They shot 52.9% as a group
Without LeBron, they shot a collective 47.9%
Rashard Lewis 5-9 (3-7 from 3pt)
Chris Bosh 6-11 (with the clutch 3)
Dwyane Wade 5-9
Mario Chalmers 2-4
Ray Allen 4-7
Chris Anderson 1-4
Norris Cole 0-2
James Jones 0-2
It is a good series, I never expect this to be any less than 6 games.
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 12:01 am
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 11:56 pm to htran90
Still astonishes me the overreaction of every single game in a series.
Twitter and this place make it seem like the Heat have dominated this series after tonight.
The reality is that both teams are very evenly matched, and this will go 6 games minimum, 7 games most likely.
Twitter and this place make it seem like the Heat have dominated this series after tonight.
The reality is that both teams are very evenly matched, and this will go 6 games minimum, 7 games most likely.
Posted on 6/8/14 at 11:59 pm to AlexLSU
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They're playing close to it. Theoretically their A game would be a 130-70 blowout where everyone contributes, but that's not happening. They shot 53% tonight and held the Spurs to 44%. Lebron had one of his best games in his postseason career, and the big 3 all shot 50% or higher from the field. They had a great game defensively. How much better do you expect this team to play? They have a declining #2 in Wade, a jump shooting #3 in Bosh and are relying on old arse Rashard Lewis and Ray Allen as their fourth scoring option. You're overestimating this team's REALISTIC ceiling.
You note the Spurs shooting 46% and 50% from 3 as "Normal" bc they lead the league in 3 pointers at 40%
But then you state the Heat played their A game because they shot 53% from the field? They average 50% a game from the field over the entire season. a 3% bump over the average is much more normal than a 6% and 10% bump
This isn't even one of LeBron's top 10 playoff performances
D Wade played terrible
There defense was actually very sloppy the entire game until the 4th quarter. Even the announcers were taking note of how poorly they were defending the Spurs.
If you think this game is an example of the Heat playing at their A game, you've obviously not seen them play very much.
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 12:03 am
Posted on 6/9/14 at 12:04 am to brgfather129
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Who is Mohamed Ali
One of the GOAT posters of the MSB.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 12:11 am to boXerrumble
For the Spurs to win this series, they need Kawhi Leonard to take his game to another level, and they need to take Ginobili out near the end of close games.
Ginobili's likelihood to go spastic in critical situations is too high.
Ginobili's likelihood to go spastic in critical situations is too high.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 12:21 am to inadaze
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For the Spurs to win this series, they need Kawhi Leonard to take his game to another level, and they need to take Ginobili out near the end of close games.
They've played well enough to win both games. The team that shoots <50% in this series will lose.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 12:22 am to inadaze
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For the Spurs to win this series, they need Kawhi Leonard to take his game to another level, and they need to take Ginobili out near the end of close games.
Ginobili's likelihood to go spastic in critical situations is too high.
So if Manu's out, who handles the ball if Parker is blanketed by Lebron?
Posted on 6/9/14 at 12:23 am to boXerrumble
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So if Manu's out, who handles the ball if Parker is blanketed by Lebron?
Gotta be the Baker's Man, IMO.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 12:24 am to inadaze
Taking Ginobili out towards the end of games is a really bad idea.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 12:25 am to SabiDojo
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Taking Ginobili out towards the end of games is a really bad idea.
Not if he's turning the ball over (which he's wont to do sometimes).
I agree with you, though--we'll have to live and die with what Manu's able to provide running point on offense.
Parker has to run LeBron off as many screens as he can, though.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 12:27 am to TbirdSpur2010
People bitch about Manu but you know he's about as clutch as they come. His passing and balls skills are incredible.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 12:32 am to SabiDojo
Ginobili has been my favorite player since he came into the league. Love his unorthodox style of play and passing and yeah he definitely has the clutch gene as good as anyone else. I have like 5 different Manu jerseys
Really hoping he has a good series. If SA is fortunate enough to win I would be so happy if he got FMVP. Long ways to go for both teams, though, of course.
Really hoping he has a good series. If SA is fortunate enough to win I would be so happy if he got FMVP. Long ways to go for both teams, though, of course.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 12:59 am to SabiDojo
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His passing and balls skills are incredible.
I agree, he's a skilled player, but he's definitely not as clutch as they come.
There are a bunch of specific plays I could point to, but just one example - There was a play late in the 4th (90-90 tie) where Ginobili launched a deep, desperation 3 with about 5 seconds on the shot clock. Miss. Heat ball. Same situation on the other end--LeBron has the ball beyond the arc with about 5 seconds left on the shot clock--2 passes get the ball deep in the paint for a layup by Birdman.
Ginobili had time to create a higher percentage shot, but he went spasmodic. He's been doing that type of stuff for years.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:04 am to inadaze
He's also been hitting clutch shots for years.
Look at his play against Dallas. Hit what should have been the game winner on a driving layup in game 3. Last year against Golden State he capped off a frantic comeback with a game winning three pointer. Hit a big shot in OT against OKC in game 6 of the WCF this year.
I'm not saying he's infallible, but his clutchness really isn't up for debate at this point.
Look at his play against Dallas. Hit what should have been the game winner on a driving layup in game 3. Last year against Golden State he capped off a frantic comeback with a game winning three pointer. Hit a big shot in OT against OKC in game 6 of the WCF this year.
I'm not saying he's infallible, but his clutchness really isn't up for debate at this point.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:06 am to inadaze
You bastards won't kill me. Why not? I'm not emotionally ready for this shite.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:06 am to inadaze
He's spastic, but he's clutch as it comes...when its last second shots. They needed to have fouled earlier imo.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:16 am to SabiDojo
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One of the GOAT posters of the MSB.
My man. I'm already leaving a legacy in less than a month
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:21 am to TbirdSpur2010
Not trying to put down your favorite player. I'm just saying from a strategic standpoint, I wouldn't want him in there in a pressure situation.
Actually, I hope San Antonio keeps him in because I like Miami.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:37 am to inadaze
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Not trying to put down your favorite player. I'm just saying from a strategic standpoint, I wouldn't want him in there in a pressure situation.
Oh no I don't care if you dog him, but what I'm saying is that from a strategic point, I want him in there in crunch time as a Spurs fan.
San Antonio is a ball-movement oriented team, so other than Parker, they rarely have a guy on the floor who's capable of consistently creating and hitting a shot one on one. Manu has made a career out of being that one wildcard Spur who can get a good look off even against a defense primed to stop him (or make a good pass if they pay too much attention to him).
He's not perfect in pressure situations (no one is, of course), but with the game on the line, I'll ride or die with Ginobili handling the rock on offense.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:15 am to TbirdSpur2010
I'm just glad the spurs had Manu last year in the finals.
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