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re: NBA Finals Game 2 Thread: Heat 98 @ Spurs 96 FINAL. Series tied at 1

Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:47 am to
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:47 am to
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Meh, Parker has gotten the better of Bron often enough that it's a viable option for SA down the stretch (see game 1 last year and game 6 last year). SA's biggest thing to worry about down the stretch is taking care of the ball and hitting foul shots.
You said they've won "most of the time", tougher schedule yes, but have they had a better record in the last 2 playoffs than Miami? That makes a difference, I know they don't have a better recrod this season, which negates saying matter of factly that they've played better, or more specifically "won most of the time" compared to Miami.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:48 am to
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have they had a better record in the last 2 playoffs than Miami?


Um, SA had to play much tougher competition to get to the Finals both years
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:50 am to
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Um, SA had to play much tougher competition to get to the Finals both years
Missing my point.

Just because you play tougher competition doesn't mean you played better or are better. If you play tough competition and lose 12 games that doesn't mean you performed better than the team playing lesser competition that lost 5 games(made up numbers), right?
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:50 am to
1st 3 rounds, Spurs 12-6, Heat 12-3.

Taking the competition difference, sounds fairly even to me, can't really argue the Spurs were better, especially considering the Mavericks took them to 7 games.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:52 am to
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especially considering the Mavericks took them to 7 games.
Dallas would've been the 3 seed in the East
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:52 am to
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Just because you play tougher competition doesn't mean you played better or are better.


Actually, yeah, generally it does.

Look, I'm not trying to say that Miami isn't a great team, but to act like they're worlds better because they steamrolled the Bobcats and Nets is silly.

I know you're just saying anything to exalt the heat, though. No skin off my nose. Can't wait for game 3
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:54 am to
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Dallas would've been the 3 seed in the East
Doesn't change any of my points.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:56 am to
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Actually, yeah, generally it does
No, it doesn't.

You're saying record doesn't matter at all, that's not true, not even close to it. Let me make an extreme hypothetical to prove my point since the other obvious and real one didnt' work. Team A goes 21-19 against West competition. Team B goes 37-3 against East team competition. You just said that that means Team A is better. I'm telling you that isn't so.

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but to act like they're worlds better because they steamrolled the Bobcats and Nets is silly.
Not to be an arse, but if that's what you got out of my points, you're not even trying to comprehend them. I've acknowledged the schedule difference every step of the way.

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I know you're just saying anything to exalt the heat, though. No skin off my nose. Can't wait for game 3
No, just bringing a little logic to the debate. I know it gets muddied up and blurred when rooting for your team.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:58 am to
I got nothing muddled. You just dislike the fact that I disagree with your assessment
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:00 am to
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You're saying record doesn't matter at all, that's not true, not even close to it.


And I never said this at all I just said that it matters less when there's such a great disparity in competition.

You're bending over backwards and defying logic to fellate the heat. Which is cool with me. I don't dislike LeBron or the Heat. They're a great team.

I just think SA is good enough to beat them three more times over the next 5 possible games.
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 8:02 am
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:03 am to
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I got nothing muddled.
Of course you do.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:05 am to
Now you're just being obtuse on purpose. I'm not trying to fight with you. This is stupid.

Nothing you can say will convince me beyond a shadow of a doubt that SA is over matched and/or has no chance. Conversely, I'm not arguing that the Heat are a pittance and not to be feared. I like Lebron. I like the Heat's team, but I believe SA can beat them (of course), and your entitled to your opinion as well
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 8:07 am
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:06 am to
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You're bending over backwards and defying logic to fellate the heat
Is this real life?

I'm defying logic. The guy telling me that I'm defying logic is the same guy telling me the Spurs solidified they were the better team in a game they lost at home, but I'm defying logic.

Again, is this real life?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:07 am to
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Nothing you can say will convince me beyond a shadow of a doubt that SA is over matched and/or has no chance.
Again, your reading comprehension is so far off, I can't even begin to fathom how you got that from anything I've said. I've said nothing even close to that, so why would you bring that up? I'd be interested to see an honest answer to what posts of mine, specifically, led you to believe I said SA has no chance and is overmatched beyond a shadow of a doubt.

This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 8:08 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:09 am to
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the same guy telling me the Spurs solidified they were the better team in a game they lost at home


I never said that
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:09 am to
Here's my very 1st reply to you today:

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These teams, through 9 games(Finals last season) have proved that they are about as evenly matched as it gets. The difference last season was Miami having the best player on the court, and I suspect it'll be the same this season, but either way, it'll be highly entertaining to watch


Here's what you turned it into...right after saying I was defying logic:

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Nothing you can say will convince me beyond a shadow of a doubt that SA is over matched and/or has no chance




I think that says it all.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:10 am to
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I never said that
So what did you say about solidifying then?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:20 am to
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So what did you say about solidifying then?


Nothing

I said I believe SA is the better team. I didn't say jack about game 2 solidifying that. You're making shite up, son

ETA: I take it back. I was mistaken. My apologies
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 8:23 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:21 am to
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Nothing you can say will convince me beyond a shadow of a doubt that SA is over matched and/or has no chance


And there is nothing wrong with that statement. This isn't a zero sum game.

My my you are contentious this morning
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:23 am to
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Nothing
Sure about that?

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I didn't say jack about game 2 solidifying that. You're making shite up, son

Previous page, posted by you:

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I believe SA is the better team, and that was solidified by SA being in the game/leading while LeBron was playing about as well as one can expect him to play.

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