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re: NBA Finals Game 2 Thread: Heat 98 @ Spurs 96 FINAL. Series tied at 1

Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:58 am to
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:58 am to
The Heat shot 53% from the field, 42% from 3, had more rebounds, LeBron went off and they STILL only won by 2 and that was only because the Spurs sucked at free throws tonight. After tonight I am convinced the Spurs are going to cruise the rest of the way!
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 3:44 am to
Of course I hope you're right

I believe SA is the better team, and that was solidified by SA being in the game/leading while LeBron was playing about as well as one can expect him to play.

Won't be easy, and SA has to take care of the little things to prevent MIA from hanging around in games and pouncing at the end, but it's doable. Hoping for at least a split in South Beach (preferably winning game 3).
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:06 am to
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You could argue it, but again, what is truly sticking out as an aberration?
What's the abberation from Miami's side?

Miami for the season shot .501 in terms of FG%. They're exactly at 50% after 2 games. San Antonio shot .486, and are at 51% for the 1st 2 games, seems fairly standard.

The Spurs can definitely knock down 3s, but I think their 3pt % through 2 games is the most likely number to not be able to be sustained through a series.

As for as turnovers, on the season the Spurs average 14.3 per game, and are averaging 16.5 per in the 1st 2 games of the series, but that sounds about right if you factor in that Miami forced the 2nd most turnovers in the league.

I'd say both teams are playing solid basketball, not their best. But the nod goes to Miami as of this moment solely based on winning 1 on the road and taking homecourt advantage back. And as we know with the last 9 games these 2 teams have played, the advantage will probably swing back and forth a couple more times.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:08 am to
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I believe SA is the better team, and that was solidified by SA being in the game/leading while LeBron was playing about as well as one can expect him to play.
There's no scenario, except for injury to Spurs players, where the Spurs can solidify they're the better team while also losing at home.

Just sayin...

These teams, through 9 games(Finals last season) have proved that they are about as evenly matched as it gets. The difference last season was Miami having the best player on the court, and I suspect it'll be the same this season, but either way, it'll be highly entertaining to watch.
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 7:09 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:13 am to
You misunderstand me. I realize the teams are extremely close. But SA is deeper (look at where their production comes from) and have a more team oriented approach when finding success. Not a slight to Miami, but they're not as balanced so if James is off, they struggle more so than SA who has more of a next man up philosophy.

Also, the better team doesn't always win.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:17 am to
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But SA is deeper (look at where their production comes from) and have a more team oriented approach when finding success

And Miami has been kinda successful with the Big 3 approach.

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but they're not as balanced so if James is off, they struggle more so than SA who has more of a next man up philosophy.
In the NBA playoffs, I'll take my chances with the elite, better players at the top than the 7th and 8th man off the bench being better than the other side. I may not win every time, but I'll win most of the time.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:25 am to
Spurs are in trouble and here is why:

These games will be close in the last 6 minutes.

In the last 8 minutes, a rested LeGoat comes back in the game. Just like last year, he guards parker. No doubleteam is necessary when parker drives because Bron can recover quickly. Defense doesn't break down, spurs don't get open shots. The reason they went nuts at the end of game 1 was Bron was out, parker broke down the d and spurs got open 3s.

On the other end of the court LeGoat is the best there is and all the spurs can really do late when he attacks is collapse on him and pray bosh, allen, Lewis or wade misses a wide open jumper when LeBron kicks it to them. Not ideal at all and again advantage heat.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:32 am to
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taking homecourt advantage back


They never had it
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:34 am to
I agree. Everyone focuses on LeBrons offensive game, but last night he showed why he is the most dominant player on the planet, and perhaps the most dominant to ever play when it is over. His defense is elite. He single-handedly eliminated the Spurs best player last night.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:37 am to
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They never had it
You mother!!!
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:38 am to
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Everyone focuses on LeBrons offensive game


Not really, he is praised for is defense as equally if not more.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:39 am to
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And Miami has been kinda successful with the Big 3 approach.


Spurs have a big 3 too, you forget

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In the NBA playoffs, I'll take my chances with the elite, better players at the top than the 7th and 8th man off the bench being better than the other side. I may not win every time, but I'll win most of the time.


Spurs have won most of the time with the better and deeper bench.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:41 am to
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Spurs have a big 3 too, you forget


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Spurs have won most of the time with the better and deeper bench
Not since the Heat's Big 3 got together, they haven't.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:42 am to
Meh, Parker has gotten the better of Bron often enough that it's a viable option for SA down the stretch (see game 1 last year and game 6 last year). SA's biggest thing to worry about down the stretch is taking care of the ball and hitting foul shots.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:44 am to
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Not since the Heat's Big 3 got together, they haven't.


You said the NBA playoffs. SA has come out of the tougher conference two years in a row and have battled MIA to a virtual draw both years as well.

You're mistaken. Per par
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:44 am to
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The Heat shot 53% from the field, 42% from 3


um, those are close to their season averages, of 50% and 40% - do you even watch basketball?

dont answer that Q - i already know the answer...

Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:44 am to
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TbirdSpur2010
if the spurs let me down again this year i'm giving turban guy the permission to charlie mike
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:45 am to
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:45 am to
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But SA is deeper (look at where their production comes from) and have a more team oriented approach when finding success


indeed, they are better and deeper

too bad Spo is outcoaching Pop.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
112902 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:45 am to
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Meh, Parker has gotten the better of Bron often enough that it's a viable option for SA down the stretch (see game 1 last year and game 6 last year).
Process vs results. The shots fell, Parker gets and deserves the credit. But a long 3, and a spinning shot after falling on the ground, technically you're right in he got the best of em, but if you're a Spurs fan, that has to scare you if that's the 2 examples as Parker can't do those 2 things consistently.

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SA's biggest thing to worry about down the stretch is taking care of the ball and hitting foul shots.
And containing Lebron.
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