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re: NBA Draft prospects that youre convinced will pan out and which will bust
Posted on 5/31/15 at 4:57 pm to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 5/31/15 at 4:57 pm to RLDSC FAN
The Lakers need someone that can play defense, especially a rim protector, and Okafor is not that guy.
I actually think Winslow is going to be a really good player, and I'm probably going to be wrong on this one but I think Russell is going to be a bust.
I actually think Winslow is going to be a really good player, and I'm probably going to be wrong on this one but I think Russell is going to be a bust.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 4:59 pm to RLDSC FAN
I think they would be fine offensively, but they are both pretty poor defenders at this stage of their careers. Their is a premium on rim protection in the league and neither guy provides much of it all.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 5:01 pm to Dawgsontop34
Yeah I like each of their games individually, but I don't think they compliment each other well.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 5:01 pm to RTR America
i think he can grow his defensive game. he has the body for it unlike julius who i think will pretty much always be a below average defender
This post was edited on 5/31/15 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 5/31/15 at 5:02 pm to Sellecks Moustache
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Every Eurotrash player.
Meh...I think Hezonja is going to be a really good pro provided he doesn't strangle a teammate/get strangled.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 5:02 pm to goldenbadger08
Italy didn't mess Brandon Jennings up... Brandon Jennings inability to mature as a basketball player did that on it's own. They preach efficiency and team basketball in Euro ball. That's something he couldn't learn overseas nor here in the states.
I think the 3 Duke guys will have a lot of success. As far as flame outs, I'll also go with Dekker adding Turner, Johnson, and Russell.
I think the 3 Duke guys will have a lot of success. As far as flame outs, I'll also go with Dekker adding Turner, Johnson, and Russell.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 5:16 pm to WestCoastAg
Yeah the thing about it is that as much as I like dislike the pairing I couldn't conceivable pass on him
Posted on 5/31/15 at 5:25 pm to RTR America
Booms - KAT and WCS
Busts - Stanley Johnson and Dekker
Busts - Stanley Johnson and Dekker
Posted on 5/31/15 at 5:26 pm to Dawgsontop34
I like Pat Connaughton and Miles Turner as guys who have potential to be solid in the NBA.
I'd stay away from Kristaps Porzingis
I'd stay away from Kristaps Porzingis
Posted on 5/31/15 at 5:41 pm to Ostrich
I like this draft a lot. I think Oubre will be a bust though.
Cliff Alexander's stock is low enough that even if he doesn't pan out, he won't really be a bust. I look at Tyus in a similar way, although they are very different players. No one thinks Tyus will be a top 10 pick. He's in the 20-25 range. At that point, anyone who is a decent pro outplays their draft position. And Tyus has enough intelligence and passing ability that he will be a good 8th or 9th man for a playoff team, running the second offense. Just pair him with a good on-ball defender at the 2, and you'll be fine. Wouldn't be surprised if he never starts though, but that's acceptable for a late first round pick.
As for Okafor, I completely understand why Lakers fans don't want him since they have Randle. He's better than Randle, much much more efficient. However, they are both ball dominant 4's who are below average defenders who can't protect the rim.
I see no way that Okafor doesn't average 16-17 points per game in the worst case scenario (not as rookie, but after a few years). His worst case scenario is a guy who puts up great numbers on a bad team. His weaknesses are free throw shooting and all the stuff that doesn't show up on the stat sheet, like helpside defense and lowering field goal percentages at the rim. He will undoubtedly put up great stats though.
I also think that guys like Towns and to a certain extent, Winslow, are overrated bc they never had to be "the Man" on a consistent basis. As a result, their bad games are glossed over and their best games are considered representative. I like both guys a lot though.
Cliff Alexander's stock is low enough that even if he doesn't pan out, he won't really be a bust. I look at Tyus in a similar way, although they are very different players. No one thinks Tyus will be a top 10 pick. He's in the 20-25 range. At that point, anyone who is a decent pro outplays their draft position. And Tyus has enough intelligence and passing ability that he will be a good 8th or 9th man for a playoff team, running the second offense. Just pair him with a good on-ball defender at the 2, and you'll be fine. Wouldn't be surprised if he never starts though, but that's acceptable for a late first round pick.
As for Okafor, I completely understand why Lakers fans don't want him since they have Randle. He's better than Randle, much much more efficient. However, they are both ball dominant 4's who are below average defenders who can't protect the rim.
I see no way that Okafor doesn't average 16-17 points per game in the worst case scenario (not as rookie, but after a few years). His worst case scenario is a guy who puts up great numbers on a bad team. His weaknesses are free throw shooting and all the stuff that doesn't show up on the stat sheet, like helpside defense and lowering field goal percentages at the rim. He will undoubtedly put up great stats though.
I also think that guys like Towns and to a certain extent, Winslow, are overrated bc they never had to be "the Man" on a consistent basis. As a result, their bad games are glossed over and their best games are considered representative. I like both guys a lot though.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:16 pm to Keys Open Doors
You really see Okafor as a 4?
Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:38 pm to RTR America
I can see him playing either spot. Even if he is the 5, he needs a better defender at the 4, someone like Tristan Thompson. Definitely not someone like Julius Randle.
If he gets picked by the Wolves, I see him playing the 4 while Dieng and Pekovic play center.
What that does to Garnett, who knows?
If he gets picked by the Wolves, I see him playing the 4 while Dieng and Pekovic play center.
What that does to Garnett, who knows?
Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:59 pm to Keys Open Doors
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What that does to Garnett, who knows?
Garnett is pretty irrelevant as a player. But I'm sure he'd be a good mentor to whichever big Minnesota takes
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:08 pm to WestCoastAg
Boom: Stanley Johnson
Bust: Willie Cauley-Stein
Bust: Willie Cauley-Stein
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:22 pm to Dawgsontop34
I think Russell is one of the guys that pretty much can't be too much of a bust. There is a definite chance he doesn't live up to the 3rd or 4th pick though.
I would say he was the best ball handler last year in college and he has serious range from three. Worst comes to worst, he is a 3 point shooter that can carve up some people when he gets the ball.
I hate Oubre and dislike Booker.
I would say he was the best ball handler last year in college and he has serious range from three. Worst comes to worst, he is a 3 point shooter that can carve up some people when he gets the ball.
I hate Oubre and dislike Booker.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:39 pm to Lester Earl
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really like Winslow too. 6'6" with shoes on
Which is something else that confused me... He was 6'4.5" without shoes on but with shoes in he was 6'6.5"... What shoe gives you 2 full inches? Was he wearing heels?
I like everything about his game too. But was a little surprised to see he was below 6'5 with his shoes off and not sure what he plays on the NBA. His game is that of a 3, but his height is more of a 2. Still think he's gonna be a good player but seeing his height at the combine stood out to me.
And yea Russell is the real deal. Arguably the best player in the draft. He's my pick for ROY, wherever he goes.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:42 pm to WestCoastAg
Mudiay will lead the Knicks to the promised land(I can dream.)
I'm partial to Booker bc his first cousin is good friends with my roommate.
I'm partial to Booker bc his first cousin is good friends with my roommate.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:42 pm to KG5989
jahlil is mine cause you know he will put up stats even if his analytic crap isnt as good. i like winslow as well, before we ended up in the top 2, i wanted us to take him at 4
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:50 pm to WestCoastAg
I think Emmanuel Mudiay and D'Angelo Russell will both be very good NBA players. Both are combo guards whose games translate well to the NBA.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:57 pm to hoopsgalore
Definitely helps they are both 6'5 too.
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