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My CFB rankings based strictly on records and Strength of Victory

Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:22 am
Posted by jac1280
Member since Dec 2007
5380 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:22 am
1. Ohio St 6-0
2. Georgia 5-0
3. LSU 5-0
4. Alabama 5-0
5. Clemson 5-0
6. Florida 6-0
7. Wisconsin 5-0
8. Penn St. 5-0
9. Oklahoma 5-0
10. Baylor 5-0
11. SMU 6-0
12. Boise St. 5-0
13. Wake Forest 5-0
14. Minnesota 5-0
15. App. St. 4-0
16. Memphis 5-0

17. Auburn
18. Notre Dame
18. Michigan

17th starts the one loss teams and rank them according to SOV. Obviously this is a small sample size and these rankings will change a lot as some of these zero loss teams lose and one loss teams keep winning, etc.

A win is a win is a win. No need to worry about style points. What’s wrong with this method?
This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 10:41 am
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:25 am to
Has Alabama played a college level team yet?

ETA: I didn’t see who they played this past weeekend or if they even played
This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 10:27 am
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:25 am to
Strength of victory? So how are we behind Clemson they don't have a single win near beating Auburn by double digits.
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6101 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:25 am to
What's your algorithm? Or is this just a "feels" algorithm on where it just subjective strength of opponent...
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110889 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:25 am to
quote:

A win is a win is a win. No need to worry about style points. What’s wrong with this method?

You reward teams for playing shite OOC schedules and penalize teams, like Texas for example, for playing a top 3 team.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23128 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:26 am to
The issue would only be that OSU hasn't played a team who is good on both sides of the ball (although you could argue the same for LSU). UGA has the best win of the season, but I do think ND is a step or two below the top 5 or so.

OSU's opponents record is 20-12 right now against FBS teams, far better than anyone elses. The issue is those teams don't have top 25 resumes themselves.

The question is and always should be IMO is it better to beat 8 teams in the 26-55 range, or 3 teams in the 5-15 range and 5 teams in the 60-85 range. The SOS for the first team would be pretty good, but the second team's schedule is more difficult in reality
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29254 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:26 am to
By your own standard Clemson is way too high
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36454 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:28 am to
quote:

A win is a win is a win. No need to worry about style points. What’s wrong with this method?


i like your rankings for the most part to be honest. it still overvalues clemson at this point, but i like the rest of it.
Posted by jac1280
Member since Dec 2007
5380 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:32 am to
Alabama has 3 wins over P5 teams.

Like I said, this will change as the season moves forward and some of the crappy zero loss teams begin to lose games and some of the one loss and two loss teams keep winning and beating decent to good opponents.

Edited to correct 3 P5 teams, miscounted
This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 1:30 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67590 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:34 am to
quote:

17th starts the one loss teams and rank them according to SOV


Auburn, Texas, and ND are better than 7 of those undefeated teams.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110889 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:34 am to
quote:

Like I said, this will change as the season moves forward and some of the crappy zero loss teams begin to lose games and some of the one loss and two loss teams keep winning and beating decent to good opponents.
Blindly putting a team with 0 or 1 losses over a team with 1 or 2 losses is just a bad system, everything else doesn't matter.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35539 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:34 am to
quote:

OSU's opponents record is 20-12 right now against FBS teams,


Alabama's opponents are probably 20-12 against FCS teams.
Posted by jac1280
Member since Dec 2007
5380 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:35 am to
I know all schedules aren’t created equal so you can’t rank teams based just on record. However, if you include SOV, then as the season goes on, it will sort itself out.
Posted by jac1280
Member since Dec 2007
5380 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:36 am to
Did you read all of my posts? Some of the crappy zero loss teams will start to lose and some of the 1 loss and 2 loss teams will keep winning and beating decent to good opponents.
Posted by Geaux23
Member since Sep 2012
5810 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:44 am to
this is impossible to do without pissing off 90% of the people


Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110889 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:45 am to
quote:

Did you read all of my posts?
I did, it seemed to make it pretty clear that a 0 loss team of any variety will always be ranked ahead of a 1 loss team of any variety, did it not?

quote:

Some of the crappy zero loss teams will start to lose and some of the 1 loss and 2 loss teams will keep winning and beating decent to good opponents.
And if a C-USA or MAC team goes undefeated, you'll still rank them ahead of a 1 loss LSU or Georgia or Texas?
Posted by cascadia
Georgia
Member since Jan 2014
2089 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:51 am to
This list isn't by strength of victory. Didn't have to go past #1 to see that.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28382 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:53 am to
quote:

The issue would only be that OSU hasn't played a team who is good on both sides of the ball


True. But they've also been dominant against their opponents.

quote:

UGA has the best win of the season, but I do think ND is a step or two below the top 5 or so.


Going to have to disagree with you there. Certainly ND appears to be a good team. But that game was in Georgia. ND faced arguably the toughest crowd in UGA history and still had a shot to tie late. On the flip side, LSU beat top 10 Texas ON THE ROAD. Road wins always trump home wins IMO

Clemson has struggled. Bama, OSU and Oklahoma haven't played great schedules, but they have also done what great teams do and hammer those opponents. LSU and UGA have the "best" wins of the top 6 teams (though you could maybe make the case Wisconsin should be in the conversation as well)
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 11:00 am to
quote:

but I do think ND is a step or two below the top 5 or so.


why dude?

can't stand baseless statements. you think many teams could have gone into uga and played them close? naa.. don't even start. Irish have been impressive every week. but you only gas up big ten teams. thats the issue here
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28590 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 11:03 am to
Are people really in here debating some random dude’s rankings halfway through the season?
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