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re: Muschamp heir apparent to Mack Brown

Posted on 11/18/08 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by Dice
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 4:23 pm to
There is talk about Mack becoming the AD in next couple of years.
Posted by Tiger n Austin
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 4:24 pm to
I am thinking Earl Lane. Lock him up.
Posted by That LSU Guy
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 7:35 pm to
Yup
Posted by guttata
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 9:05 pm to
Are ya'll frickin insane? The only reason they did this was so Muschamp wouldn't leave after this year. Brown isn't going anywhere. Muschamp would be a fool to not look at a HC opportunity now. Just wait till UT does bad one year and see if they really want Muschamp.
Posted by Chaz95
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 9:07 pm to
I could think of a lot worse places to earn $75,000/MONTH.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

The only reason they did this was so Muschamp wouldn't leave after this year. Brown isn't going anywhere. Muschamp would be a fool to not look at a HC opportunity now.



This is what I think, too. Muschamp isn't going to want to wait around until Mack retires, and Texas isn't going to want to hire somebody with no head coaching experience.
Posted by Roughneck
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 10:34 pm to
Wrong, So Very Wrong.
Posted by Vood
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Posted on 11/18/08 at 11:09 pm to
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The only reason they did this was so Muschamp wouldn't leave after this year. Brown isn't going anywhere. Muschamp would be a fool to not look at a HC opportunity now.


He was going to be fast tracked right back to Auburn when they lose to Bama this year so Texas sweetened the pot to keep him.
This post was edited on 11/18/08 at 11:12 pm
Posted by Rocket
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Posted on 11/19/08 at 7:29 am to
Yeah, why wouldn't Muschamp want to wait? Texas is one of the top 5 jobs in college football and arguably the best, and he can take over in 2011, be 40 years old then and still have a good number of years coaching in front of him. Hell, he could coach there for 20 years if he took over then and still retire when he's 60.

Texas gets great athletes, has nice facilities, can pay him an assload of money and he needs to start looking elsewhere for a job? Where's he gonna go? He would need his head checked. He's gonna be spending the next several years on the recruiting trail trying to put his print on the future program that will be his and he would want to leave?

I'm sure if someone told him several years ago he'd coach at Texas as an assistant and after not even being there a year, they offer to double his salary and that he'd be the head coach when Mack retires, I'm sure he would have been pretty pumped.

I'm not sure about these head coach-in-waiting arrangements and how they are gonna work out but if it were me, I'd have to find out for myself. No coach anywhere is guaranteed any success.

Yeah, he doesn't have any head coaching experience but neither did Bob Stoops, Richt, or Fulmer. I understand the concern about that, but having no head coaching experience doesn't guarantee failure and having it doesn't guarantee success.

This will definitely help them on the recruiting trail and obviously Texas and Mack Brown want to win a another national title, and their best bet to do that would be to keep Muschamp.

They could very well start out as the preseason #1 in '09, especially with McCoy coming back.

Their defense hasn't improved in pass defense(ranked #110 nationally in pass defense), but the are young in the secondary and Big 12 offenses are crazy this year. But also, check out where the rest of the Big 12 ranks in pass defense nationally:

#73 Colorado
#90 Nebraska
#91 Texas A&M
#93 Oklahoma
#97 KSU
#98 TT
#102 Baylor
#108 OSU
#111 Missouri
#114 Kansas
#115 ISU

And Oklahoma still hasn't played OSU or TT

Depending on whether or not they go to the Big 12 title game, they shouldn't come close to giving up the amount of points they gave up last year and probably will end up with the best defense in the Big 12.

Now, he can continue to teach that defense and see it improve.

And for all of the credit Stoops gets as a defensive mind, OU sucked last year, statistically, and there's no telling how torched they may get by OSU and TT. And he's not in his 1st year at OU.
This post was edited on 11/20/08 at 7:08 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/19/08 at 7:35 am to
quote:

Their defense hasn't improved in pass defense(ranked #110 nationally in pass defense), but the are young in the secondary and Big 12 offenses are crazy this year.

last year i don't think they had much talent in the secondary and the big12 had just of good of offenses
Posted by Rocket
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Posted on 11/19/08 at 7:43 am to
Well when you have the inexperience in the secondary against the offenses they face, you aren't gonna report a premier pass defense.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/19/08 at 7:48 am to
the same logic applies to a secondary that is untalented. i think the griffin who was on the team last year was like a 4.75-4.80 guy at S
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/19/08 at 7:49 am to
People are putting way to much stock in the raw numbers. Texas D may not be USC, but they are not one of the worst in the country despite their ranking. If you had that same D in the Big 10 or ACC, they would not be 110, more like 40-50.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 11/19/08 at 7:50 am to
Nice play Texas. With all the good HC jobs opening up, you found a way to lock up Muschamp.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/19/08 at 7:51 am to
and the thing people are saying is that the same logic would apply if akina were still running the D
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 11/19/08 at 7:54 am to
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Yeah, why wouldn't Muschamp want to wait? Texas is one of the top 5 jobs in college football and arguably the best, and he can take over in 2011



Believe me, I lived in Austin, I know how awesome that job is. I just don't see Mack retiring any time soon. Maybe I'm wrong though. I didn't think Will would want to wait another 7-8 years. If it's only 2 or 3, then hell yeah, wait that out.
Posted by Rockerbraves
Greatest Nation on Earth
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Posted on 11/19/08 at 8:07 am to
Muschamp took the bait. (promise and $$$$)

Wonder what kind of buyout either side has?

Posted by Roughneck
Member since Feb 2005
8236 posts
Posted on 11/19/08 at 10:26 am to
William Larry Muschamp will be the next Head Coach of the University of Texas and he will take said position after Mack steps aside after the 2009 Football Season.
Posted by Me4Heisman
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/19/08 at 1:22 pm to
Muschamp is one of the most suspect coordinators out there. Never really been impressed with him, esp. since he never really was a true d-coordinator until this year. Not sure why a program like UT does not want someone with head coaching experience.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
31028 posts
Posted on 11/19/08 at 4:18 pm to
I thought about this yesterday, and agree exactly with Josh and Matt's takes, that this is just putting an Elite DC on a retainer.

UT for a bump of a few hundred K per, locks down a compliment to Mack's Offensive expertise, and gets someone that will elevate and maintain their D, all the while Muschamp has brought a toughness that often is amiss in Teasipland. Hell, they may meet up with UF later this in Jan, and/or face SEC teams in future BCSCG games, thus Muschamp's SEC expertise is at hand too.

Even without a buyout clause, Muschamp is now strung along with a promissary note of a gig, that he is no better than 50/50 to receive when the time comes, of which is supposedly 8 years away.

Even if Deloss Dodds retires soon, I find it hard to believe that MB at such a young age(despite looking older) will not want to chase more hardware, nationally and Big-12, by staying HC.

His desire for Football seems greater than his needing feel that I better jump at this AD hire..or else miss it forever.

Smart move by Texas and WM, as Muschamp's wife and kids are happy in Austin, he now gets moderate mid-level Conference HC Pay to live a bit more lavish, meanwhile still doesn't have the pressures of say Clem/Tenn/Aub/etc..HC gigs bring.

In eight years, there will be a few more of the next Urban Meyers, Nick Sabans, Chris Petersons, Butch Davis,etc..at hand for hiring.

Odds are 50/50 or even less, that Wil Muschamp is ever the Texas Longhorn's next HC!
This post was edited on 11/19/08 at 4:25 pm
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