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re: Multiple players threatened to opt out of the CFB Playoffs this past year...

Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:59 am to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:59 am to
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Why should the ncaa not be allowed to have their own sets of rules for its members that voluntarily choose to be members?


Have you read the opinions? I’m sure they go into the details there.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61986 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:02 am to
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You’re in luck. No one is forcing these member institutions to offer anything to any athlete.



That's untrue.

Someone is forcing these member institutions from being able to enforce the rules within itself. Therefore eligibility as it relates to taking money is no longer enforceable. And, eligibility as it relates to transferring is no longer enforceable.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10341 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:02 am to
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You’re in luck. No one is forcing these member institutions to offer anything to any athlete.

The government is forcing these member institutions to do nothing when people that choose to be part of these institutions do not follow the institution’s rules they knowingly and voluntarily agreed to.

It’s truly hilarious how you think you’re intelligent on this topic.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:04 am to
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Yeah the sport has never been better!

I agree. Last year was the most parity weve ever seen in college football. Made for some very exciting weekends and big schools going down.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:05 am to
Is anyone forcing these member institutions to accept a transfer or to sign kids who have nil deals?
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:13 am to
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I think you should be paid $35k a year for your job. That seems more than fair to me

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Mingo Was His NameO

Every single time you attempt to discuss thous topic you prove how stupid you are.

LINK

Are you ready to discuss his yet?


This guy brought receipts
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69647 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:16 am to
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Last year was the most parity weve ever seen in college football.


Perceived parity. At the end of the day, only the favorites were in the mix for the title - just like every year. The teams in the final four were Ohio State (preseason #2), Texas (preseason #4), Notre Dame (preseason #7), and Penn State (preseason #8).
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 10:29 am
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30409 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:19 am to
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Well this is what happens when you refuse to create a structured means to pay players, stick your head in the ground and say "they're getting free scholarships!" even though the universities are generating millions, 


Research brings in millions to universities as well. You know what. Any findings in research done at a university is owned by that university, not the lab or the PI.

We have all types of research going on. One lab is researching fungi for cancer treatments. Been doing it for several years. If they find a breakthrough, the university owns the rights.

Why do athletes get special money when nobody else does?

This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 10:22 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:23 am to
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Research brings in millions to universities as well. You know what. Any findings in research done at a university is owned by that university, not the lab or the PI.

We have all types of research going on. One lab is researching fungi for cancer treatments. Been doing it for several years. If they find a breakthrough, the university owns the rights.

Why do athletes get special money when nobody else does?



Research institutions pay BIG money for the top people in their respective fields.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36716 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:25 am to
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Research brings in millions to universities as well. You know what. Any findings in research done at a university is owned by that university, not the lab or the PI. We have all types of research going on. One lab is researching fungi for cancer treatments. Been doing it for several years. If they find a breakthrough, the university owns the rights. Why do athletes get special money when nobody else does?


Lots of things are bullshite and/or wrong. The conversation at hand is athletics. I’m all for discussing this too
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
100724 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:29 am to
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right here. Free market, I thought most here liked it.


Absolutely not. The NFL is great because it's not a free market.

I don't like the NBA but it's keen that OKC playing in a shitty arena are favoured by touts to win the title
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:33 am to
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Perceived parity. At the end of the day, only the favorites were in the mix for the title - just like every year.

Vandy beat Bama.

Yeah, the best teams still will win titles, but the gap is narrowing.

Northern Illinois beat Notre Dame and they were in the championship.

Im not one of those people like ESPN talking heads that consider the regular season meaningless because only the playoff matters.
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 10:34 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69647 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:43 am to
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Vandy beat Bama.



Okay. So what? Alabama wasn't that great of a team last year and Vanderbilt made a bowl game and won it.

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Northern Illinois beat Notre Dame and they were in the championship.



Which in normal circumstances would have killed Notre Dame's chance at a national championship. However, and this is where the perceived parity comes into play, that game ended up not mattering whatsoever thanks to the larger playoff field.

Same thing with Michigan beating Ohio State. That was the biggest upset in the history of the rivalry and ended up not meaning anything. Sure...Michigan players got bragging rights and all that jazz but Ohio State still raised the CFP Trophy at the end of the day so I don't think they really care.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:44 am to
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that game ended up not mattering whatsoever

Stupid espn logic.

I guarantee that game mattered a lot to a lot of people.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25118 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:48 am to
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This includes the recently departed Tennessee QB, Nico Iamaleava,

Tennessee should have kicked this clown to the curb as soon as he mentioned the possibility of opting out of the playoffs. Let's see how many other teams would be lining up to pay a QB that threatened to quit on his team going into the playoffs as leverage for more money. Especially a QB who was very mediocre. Maybe Ohio State wouldn't have blown them out so badly if the Vols played their backup QB.


Remember the UNLV QB who quit 4 games into the season over an NIL dispute? He's got one year of eligibility left and is at James Madison now. Guess the grass wasn't greener in the transfer portal for a starting QB that quits on the team midseason.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61986 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:53 am to
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Is anyone forcing these member institutions to accept a transfer or to sign kids who have nil deals?



If you are asking whether these member institutions could get together and decide that they will not accept transfers or sign kids that don't have NIL deals, the answer is no. They would be sued into oblivion.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38940 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 11:04 am to
Why? It took almost no effort on their part. Just shout a few intellectually shallow platitudes that the moderate deep thinkers would eat up and away you go.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30409 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 11:08 am to
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Lots of things are bullshite and/or wrong. The conversation at hand is athletics. I’m all for discussing this too


The university usually spend millions renovating lab and office spaces for a new research team, on top of other incentives.

The university does have some skin in the game.

Not as cut and dry as you may think.
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 11:10 am
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37585 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 11:11 am to
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"they should get paid for being in the EA Sports video games" they said "schools make money so the players should get some" they said "coaches can leave if they want so why can't the players" they said

I think the disconnect is that most people thought that some common sense restrictions would also be baked into the mix. It hasn’t been, at all. Hence this chaos.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39010 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 11:47 am to
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Glad the extremely tiny minority of whiners that pounded their fists about the above have gotten their way.


That's sort of how it always works or we wouldn't have dudes stealing Riley Gaines' medals at the podium, among all the other ad naseum, slippery slope, majority unpopular things in society, etc.

NIL and all those other things show how quickly we cave....sports is just a microcosm of this societal progressive domino effect once the gate is unlatched by some seemingly small innocuous viewpoint and immediately all the scared cows roll out, down the hill, clueless.

Its amazing how quickly we can destroy good things and institutions, tearing down statutes was more difficult than the way we've torn down common sense the last 5 years. Over 100 years of CFB and tradition built on passion and granite turned out to be a house of cards.
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