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re: Most overachieving college football programs
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:38 pm to TulaneFan
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:38 pm to TulaneFan
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have overachieved in football based on their location, resources, etc?
Wouldn’t almost every team fall in this category at some point?
Any southern team making a Rose bowl in ‘20s was overachieving. Now, not so much.
Michigan winning a title would be overachieving based on their location now. In the 1910s, not so much.
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:06 pm to TexasTiger08
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Sure, they are surrounded by amazing talent, but UM is still a private school with a small enrollment that has high educational values
There is no other college in the country that has more of a geographic advantage than Miami plus they obviously are a CFB brand now.
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has high educational values.
They recruit the same guys every other P5 power team does.They aren't Stanford,Vandy or Northwestern.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 7:16 pm to TulaneFan
I’d say historically Notre Dame is among the most overachieving programs.
A small private Catholic school in Bumbfrick Indiana becoming one of e lost celebrated programs in history.
A small private Catholic school in Bumbfrick Indiana becoming one of e lost celebrated programs in history.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 7:37 pm to memphis tiger
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I’d say historically Notre Dame is among the most overachieving programs.
A small private Catholic school in Bumbfrick Indiana becoming one of e lost celebrated programs in history.
This was covered a few pages ago. It is a very, very different time than it was when Notre Dame gained their following.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 8:19 pm to LSUShock
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88Wildcat, Burnt Ends at Blind Tiger
For non-K.C. Kansas barbecue that isn't a bad choice. I would go with Lonnie's myself but that only works when you want barbecue sometime between 11AM and 1PM Monday thru Friday.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 8:28 pm to TulaneFan
I gotta throw my Auburn Tigers into the conversation especially considering we didn’t really get started as a competitive program until the 80s. Sure we had some good Shug Jordan years, but for the most part...
- Auburn is in the middle of nowhere in Alabama.
- We’re right in the middle of three major state program’s territory (Alabama, Tennessee, and Georgia).
- We’re one of three non-state schools in our conference (now four with A&M).
- We share a state with the best program in the country who has had two of the GOAT head coaches.
And despite all of that, we have three Heisman winners, multiple SEC titles, a few NCs, and many undefeated seasons. And prior to Gus, we were regularly stocking the NFL with quality talent for decades.
- Auburn is in the middle of nowhere in Alabama.
- We’re right in the middle of three major state program’s territory (Alabama, Tennessee, and Georgia).
- We’re one of three non-state schools in our conference (now four with A&M).
- We share a state with the best program in the country who has had two of the GOAT head coaches.
And despite all of that, we have three Heisman winners, multiple SEC titles, a few NCs, and many undefeated seasons. And prior to Gus, we were regularly stocking the NFL with quality talent for decades.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 8:59 pm to memphis tiger
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I’d say historically Notre Dame is among the most overachieving programs.
A small private Catholic school in Bumbfrick Indiana becoming one of e lost celebrated programs in history.
South Bend is about an hour from Chicago. Hardly Bumfrick Egypt.
Saying that, they are living on their history for the most part.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 5:18 am to StringedInstruments
Poor lil stake skool Auburn.
Clearly one of the little guys in college football history.
Clearly one of the little guys in college football history.
This post was edited on 5/12/21 at 5:19 am
Posted on 5/12/21 at 6:55 am to Dennis Celery
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That title and 2012 Bama are the only two titles I can think of that ought to have an asterisk.
Why does 2012 Alabama deserve an asterisk? They went 13-1, won the SEC Championship Game in a classic over #3 Georgia, before beating #1 Notre Dame in the BCS National Championship Game.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:03 am to Dennis Celery
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That title and 2012 Bama are the only two titles I can think of that ought to have an asterisk. Oh and 04 USC.
Neither of these two have an asterisk next to them.
2011 bama sure, but not 12 and, as much as it pains me, not any bama team after 11 should have one either. I mean you could argue that the 17 team but that’s a four team playoff that already had precedent for letting in a non-conference champ, so I don’t think that argument holds any validity.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:18 am to TulaneFan
LSU since 2000. We live in Louisiana. Enough said.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:54 am to Oilfieldbiology
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I mean you could argue that the 17 team but that’s a four team playoff that already had precedent for letting in a non-conference champ, so I don’t think that argument holds any validity.
2001 Nebraska and 2003 Oklahoma had gotten into the BCS National Championship Game without winning their conference. 2011 Alabama was hardly the first team to do it. They were just the first team to win.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 11:06 am to RollTide1987
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2003 Oklahoma
Embarrassed by K state 35-7 I believe.
Weird considering that 2003 Oklahoma offense was at the time arguably the best offense in college football history.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 11:35 am to Paul Allen
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Embarrassed by K state 35-7 I believe.
Weird considering that 2003 Oklahoma offense was at the time arguably the best offense in college football history.
To this day that remains the biggest WTF game I have ever seen. Oklahoma had no business losing that game. Not only did they lose, they got blown the eff out by an inferior Kansas State football team that had no business being on the same field as the '03 Sooners.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 11:36 am to RollTide1987
1997 Michigan..... their offense was decent at best. Their defense was real good. But the 97 Nebraska team would have crushed them in a bowl...... just like they did Tenn.........
Posted on 5/12/21 at 11:42 am to RollTide1987
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Why does 2012 Alabama deserve an asterisk?
He’s talking about the 2011 team since the title game occurred in 2012
Posted on 5/12/21 at 11:47 am to RollTide1987
Mike Riley could've had a lifetime contract with Oregon State.
Corvallis is Mayberry.
They celebrated when he won 4 games.
Oregon States history was winning 2 games a year.
When Riley won more and Erickson won 10 games it was like Christmas. The fact that Oregon State was the team, and not the SEC who got boat-raced when they played USC, to beat Pete Carroll's teams is the strangest anomaly in CFB.
Corvallis is Mayberry.
They celebrated when he won 4 games.
Oregon States history was winning 2 games a year.
When Riley won more and Erickson won 10 games it was like Christmas. The fact that Oregon State was the team, and not the SEC who got boat-raced when they played USC, to beat Pete Carroll's teams is the strangest anomaly in CFB.
This post was edited on 5/12/21 at 11:48 am
Posted on 5/12/21 at 11:54 am to dukke v
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1997 Michigan..... their offense was decent at best. Their defense was real good. But the 97 Nebraska team would have crushed them in a bowl...... just like they did Tenn.........
It's a game I feel like all of college football would have wanted to see. The top-ranked offense in college football vs. the top-ranked defense in college football. I don't think it would have been as big of a blowout for Nebraska as you think it would have been. The Huskers should have lost to Missouri that year but got lucky when the ball got kicked into the air instead of falling incomplete in the end zone, forcing OT.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:16 pm to RollTide1987
Wrong.... Tenn was basically Michigan only for the fact they had orange jerseys and a better QB.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:17 pm to RollTide1987
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2001 Nebraska and 2003 Oklahoma had gotten into the BCS National Championship Game without winning their conference. 2011 Alabama was hardly the first team to do it. They were just the first team to win.
Oklahoma won their division that year and neither of those two went in to face the only team that beat them in a rematch
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