re: MNF: Bears vs. Steelers

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The kick was from 65 yards. Your stats are completely irrelevant.

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At least I'm posting stats. What's the rate for hail marys from midfield? I'm waiting. Post them

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If I add Tucker's kick, it's 10% from 65+ So there. I lowered the rate from 25% to 10%. Post me a stat that says a hail mary from midfield had 10% chance or greater and I'll concede the argument. I made it easier for you

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I’ll make it simpler than that for you. The longest kick in the history of Heinz field is 56 yards. Heinz field is 20 years old.

Cairo Santos had no chance to make that kick. 0%. None. The chance of a successful Hail Mary > 0%.

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But as of 2018, there were 57 attempts in NFL history from greater than 60+ yards. 14 of them were made. Good for 24.56% success rate.

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I mean it was clear from the replay that Santos would have needed to be 10-15 yards closer to have made it. In addition, he’s only 50% (10/20) in FGs of 50+ (compared to 71% for Tucker). It’s also a stadium that is incredibly hard to kick in. Whereas, Tucker’s was in a dome, and I’m guessing a lot of the successful field goals were either in a dome, in Denver (balls travel farther in the high altitude), and/or with a favorable tail wind. Plus the kickers were probably those who are known for their legs.

In this case, it is a kicker who does not have a very strong leg at all, in a stadium that is difficult to kick in, and without any favorable weather conditions (maybe even a head wind). And the kick showed just how unlikely it was to make, close to impossible frankly.

Besides there is a reason there are such few attempts in the first place: it’s such a low probability kick. So the percentage of successful kicks is deceiving in that those even attempted were likely when the probability was much higher than usual.

I think they probability would have been quite a bit higher with a Hail Mary, because at least there is no concern that the pass would make it there.

You keep throwing the word impossible around, I promise you they wouldn't have let him kick that if he didn't at least demonstrate he could make such kicks on the field in practice situations. And yes, practice doesn't equal live play, but field goals are entirely either make or miss, it's not dependent on whether receivers get to their spot, if the QB has enough time to let the receivers get downfield before the rush gets to him and makes him have to leave the pocket. It's just more simpler, the kicker makes the kick of his life and becomes a legend or you miss and lose. Hail Marys are such low percentage too and the refs were not going to gift them any PI calls the way they had been calling the game.

Just don't see what the harm is giving your kicker a chance for some glory. It didn't work out but if he did make it you you'd all be freaking out about how great he is, but those moments can only arise if you give the players the chance, and that's what Nagy did. I can sit here and write an essay on the failures of Matt Nagy's tenure in Chicago, but letting his kicker try a longshot FG to win a game is not one of the things that would make the essay.

Bears also turned it over 2 more times than Pittsburgh, had the defense line up in the neutral zone on 3 straight plays, and had their right tackle hold Watt on every snap in the 2nd half and they still couldn’t block him .
Bears are a very talented team with a coach who doesn’t teach any discipline.

Marsh has always been more concerned with “having fun” than winning so it couldn’t have happened to a more perfect guy

WTF is this siht?!

refs backs into/hip checks player to throw flag?!