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re: MLB Offseason Thread: Hosmer to the Padres, Twins get a starter

Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:17 pm to
theres going to be a really big market for archer if the rays want to deal him
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:24 pm to
Agreed, if they do I think he is a Cubs lock though. Cubs would likely be willing to give up a combination of Baez, Russell, Happ, and Schwarber
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:43 pm to
the bfib twitter handle is awesome right now
Posted by RollDatRoll
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:45 pm to
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the bfib twitter handle is awesome right now


I bet. I'm sure they are saying some very nice things to Stanton. Cards fans are the worst.
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:47 pm to
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:55 pm to
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:57 pm to
You just said it yourself. If McCarthy and Kazmir can stay healthy. McCarthy hasn’t made 30 starts in years. No no way Marlins would want him. Kazmir has been fairly reliable, but probably wouldn’t have a lot of trade value. Grandal is a career .240 hitter, so I doubt he’s going to bring a lot back.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:59 pm to
i know 100% that its an awful deal for the marlins. i just dont see any incentive for the dodgers to do anything else when the marlins accepted the pretty shitty offer from the giants

and at the end of the day, if they were to take on bmac and kaz and both got hurt or implode, their contracts will be off the books next winter

its turning 10 years of 25 million into, at the absolute worst, one year of 26 million

and if either, or both, stay healthy, they will be flipped for something similar to what they were getting from san francisco. its a low risk move for the marlins to take but they are dead set on getting their salary under 90 million right now
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 5:01 pm
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:59 pm to
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McCarthy hasn’t made 30 starts in years. No no way Marlins would want him. Kazmir has been fairly reliable, but probably wouldn’t have a lot of trade value
If they perform and have no serious injuries, a pitcher will have value at the deadline.

If Kazmir pitches to a 4.5 ERA like last year then no value, he would have to pitch like he did in Oakland. Same with BMac, a team will trade for them assuming they are relatively healthy and pitching well.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 5:00 pm to
Kazmir
Grandal
Pederson
Verdugo

for

Stanton


Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 5:01 pm to
i will be very upset of pederson or verdugo is in that trade
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 5:03 pm to
I think it will take Pederson or Taylor if the Dodgers make the deal, one young MLB ready player.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 5:04 pm to
in a vacuum i would be ok with trading taylor because i think theres a zero percent chance he repeats last year. but i dont want to trade anyone that would be considered better than anything that the giants were offering
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 5:09 pm to
Again, it’s been years since McCarthy has stayed healthy. I don’t see how anyone could bet on him. I don’t see any GM dumb enough to roll the dice on him. I’m not really that optimistic that Kazmir pitches like he did in Oakland again. He’s been far more reliable than McCarthy, so it’s more realistic he could be moved. I just don’t see either pitcher bringing that much trade value back to the Marlins. The risk outweighs the reward in my view. I would never bet on McCarthy staying off the DL.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 5:09 pm to
Dodgers are in the same boat as the Yankees, if they take on the salary of Stanton they will be giving up players who have bad contracts. That means they are giving up better prospects as well.

Personally now that Stanton has said he doesn't want to go to the Giants or Cardinals I do not think he moves. The teams on his list are not going to want the salary.
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 5:11 pm to
But if those guys get hurt with Marlins, they get essentially nothing for Stanton. And the rebuild takes even longer.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 5:11 pm to
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Again, it’s been years since McCarthy has stayed healthy. I don’t see how anyone could bet on him. I don’t see any GM dumb enough to roll the dice on him.
Pitching is a premium and look at BMac. The last time he was semi-healthy he was traded to the Yankees, the following year he signs big with the Dodgers. If he comes back and pitches 12 games by the AS game with a low ERA a team would be willing to take a chance on him.
Posted by SeeeeK
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 5:12 pm to
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BREAKING: Giancarlo Stanton has used no-trade clause to reject agreed-upon trade to #SFGiants. @MLB @MLBNetwork
Posted by SeeeeK
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 5:13 pm to
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Cards fans are the worst.


Braves tard talking shite, LOL.

Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 5:13 pm to
which is something they were already willing to take from the giants

we are talking about tyler beede, heliot ramos, chris shaw, and chrisitan arroyo

yasmani grandal alone can get you a package like that
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