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re: MJ Resume Through 1st 11 full NBA season vs LeBron Resume Through 11 NBA seasons
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:43 pm to Mattwells90
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:43 pm to Mattwells90
Bulls won 55 games without Jordan
Cavs won 19 games without Lebron
Cavs won 19 games without Lebron
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:43 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Bulls won 55 games without Jordan
Cavs won 19 games without Lebron
That's great and all but you people need to really get your arguments straight. When LeBron takes the Cavs to the Finals it's a testament to how great he is as a player. When the Heat get blown away in the Finals by the Spurs we shouldn't factor that into LeBron's legacy because championships are, of course, a team stat.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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jordan was fortunate enough to have a front office build a team around him (same with duncan). he didn't have to
The put a Finals team around him in Cleveland. They also tried to get Amare and Bosh. Hell maybe LeBron shouldn't have run off Boozer when he got there.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:45 pm to RollTide1987
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That's great and all but you people need to really get your arguments straight. When LeBron takes the Cavs to the Finals it's a testament to how great he is as a player. When the Heat get blown away in the Finals by the Spurs we shouldn't factor that into LeBron's legacy because championships are, of course, a team stat.
you say that as if the Heat have a dynasty supporting cast when they don'tThis post was edited on 6/15/14 at 11:46 pm
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:45 pm to RollTide1987
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That's great and all but you people need to really get your arguments straight. When LeBron takes the Cavs to the Finals it's a testament to how great he is as a player. When the Heat get blown away in the Finals by the Spurs we shouldn't factor that into LeBron's legacy because championships are, of course, a team stat.
Yea people need to decide which way they want to argue it and stick to one side.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:46 pm to The_Hornet
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They also tried to get Amare and Bosh.
they said no to acquiring amare b/c they believed jj hickson was too valuable
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Hell maybe LeBron shouldn't have run off Boozer when he got there.
wut?
boozer misled the cavs owner and fricked him the frick over
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:48 pm to The_Hornet
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The put a Finals team around him in Cleveland.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: Larry Hughes was the second best player on that team.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
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they said no to acquiring amare b/c they believed jj hickson was too valuable
Still can't believe this .
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:51 pm to Adam Banks
quote:.... and he got injured in the Finals
Larry Hughes was the second best player on that team.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:52 pm to RollTide1987
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When LeBron takes the Cavs to the Finals it's a testament to how great he is as a player.
That is literally the single best example of a single player putting a team on his back and advancing in the playoffs. The guy scored 29 of the teams last 30 points in game 5 vs the pistons.
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When the Heat get blown away in the Finals by the Spurs we shouldn't factor that into LeBron's legacy because championships are, of course, a team stat.
It will and definitely is a factor. I just think the only thing people are arguing is how much.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:53 pm to RollTide1987
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That's great and all but you people need to really get your arguments straight. When LeBron takes the Cavs to the Finals it's a testament to how great he is as a player. When the Heat get blown away in the Finals by the Spurs we shouldn't factor that into LeBron's legacy because championships are, of course, a team stat.
I can see the point in a limited fashion, though.
LeBron taking the Cavs to the Finals was a great testimony to his abilities because that team was trash.
Losing to the Spurs, especially since he played well, isn't a huge dent to his legacy. At least until we get to the extreme margins, ala "The GOAT argument".
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:54 pm to Walking the Earth
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At least until we get to the extreme margins, ala "The GOAT argument".
That's where the argument has been since the OP started this thread.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:56 pm to Adam Banks
Lebron putting the Heat on his back and carrying them to 4 Finals is an even greater "testimony" than getting the Cavs to a Finals
This post was edited on 6/15/14 at 11:58 pm
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:58 pm to VerlanderBEAST
LeBron didn't carry Bosh and Wade
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:59 pm to VerlanderBEAST
meh, I disagree with that. That Cavs team was garbage, this Heat team has talent, they just ran up against a superior team. Also, don't forget the EC was dog shite this year.
Posted on 6/16/14 at 12:02 am to Walking the Earth
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LeBron taking the Cavs to the Finals was a great testimony to how fricking terrible the Eastern Conference was.
Posted on 6/16/14 at 12:04 am to Byron Bojangles III
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LeBron didn't carry Bosh and Wade
the Heat minus Lebron would be a .500 team at bestPosted on 6/16/14 at 12:04 am to Adam Banks
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55-27 and game 7 loss to the eventual Eastern Conference champion in the 2nd round.
So much shite happen in that offseason, but if you had any history of the game, you'd know it already.
Posted on 6/16/14 at 12:05 am to Jwho77
Pistons was still a legitimate team he almost singlehandedly beat in the ECF.
Posted on 6/16/14 at 12:05 am to VerlanderBEAST
They'd still win 50 games in that shitty EC
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