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re: Mike McQueary speaking tonight on CBS News
Posted on 11/15/11 at 6:34 pm to Zamoro10
Posted on 11/15/11 at 6:34 pm to Zamoro10
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I hope this is somewhat like the Duke Lacrosse Rape...I love it when society freaks out - convicts everyone in the court of public opinion in just a few days - and then when the facts come out everyone acts like they they never said shite.
Big difference here. We have sworn grand jury testimony from people other than some clucker stripper.
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Posted on 11/15/11 at 6:37 pm to Ice Cold
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He should learn another lesson from Sandusky (other than how to diddle a 10yo boy in the shower) and shut his trap
What are you talking about sandusky did an interview with bob costas last night
Posted on 11/15/11 at 6:38 pm to CP3LSU25
you would defend the guy who let a child get raped and ran home to daddy at 28
Posted on 11/15/11 at 6:40 pm to CP3LSU25
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I would love for this guy to be right when everyone threw stones at him
right about what?
didnt he admit to walking in on them and seeing them and then going home to tell his dad?
Posted on 11/15/11 at 6:57 pm to Maximus
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you would defend the guy who let a child get raped and ran home to daddy at 28
What are you talking about?
I said if the story that he said was true that he did something and went tell the cops. Everyone jumped all over him so bad.
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Unlike Sandusky, McQueary could really change his image around with a good interview, if what he's saying is true and he stopped Sandusky in the middle of the rape.
This post was edited on 11/15/11 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 11/15/11 at 7:02 pm to Deactived
what time does this air?
Posted on 11/15/11 at 7:26 pm to Lester Earl
i dont think they actually had an interview. just bs
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:33 pm to Deactived
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- A former Penn State graduate assistant cited by a grand jury report as claiming he saw an ex-assistant football coach sexually abusing a young boy in a campus locker room shower says in an email he made sure the act was stopped and then went to police -- contradicting what the report says.
Mike McQueary's comments, in an email made available to The Associated Press on Tuesday, appeared to add more confusion to a scandal that has enveloped the university and resulted in the firing of head coach Joe Paterno, the ousting of president Graham Spanier and charges of perjury against the athletic director and a senior vice president.
McQueary, now the football team's wide receivers coach, told a friend from Penn State that he made sure the 2002 shower assault he witnessed was stopped and went to the police about it. The friend made McQueary's email, written Nov. 8, available to the AP on Tuesday on the condition he not be identified.
McQueary, who has been placed on administrative leave and did not coach in Saturday's 17-14 loss to Nebraska, wrote: "I did stop it, not physically ... but made sure it was stopped when I left that locker room ... I did have discussions with police and with the official at the university in charge of police .... no one can imagine my thoughts or wants to be in my shoes for those 30-45 seconds ... trust me."
Added McQueary: "Do with this what you want ... but I am getting hammered for handling this the right way ... or what I thought at the time was right ... I had to make tough impacting quick decisions."
According to the grand jury report, McQueary testified he spoke to his father and then to Paterno before speaking to athletic director Tim Curley and senior vice president Gary Schultz, who oversaw campus police. Paterno has not been charged with any crime, and state prosecutors have said he is not a target. Curley and Schultz are accused of breaking the law by not going to police but maintain their innocence.
McQueary's actions also have been scrutinized, with some critics suggesting he didn't do enough after witnessing what he said was the sexual abuse of a child. Emails to McQueary from the AP were not immediately answered Tuesday.
McQueary's remarks in the email to his friend came less than a day after former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky's admission that he showered with and "horsed around" with boys stunned legal observers. Sandusky's comments, they said, could be used by prosecutors trying to convict him of child sex abuse charges.
Mike McQueary's comments, in an email made available to The Associated Press on Tuesday, appeared to add more confusion to a scandal that has enveloped the university and resulted in the firing of head coach Joe Paterno, the ousting of president Graham Spanier and charges of perjury against the athletic director and a senior vice president.
McQueary, now the football team's wide receivers coach, told a friend from Penn State that he made sure the 2002 shower assault he witnessed was stopped and went to the police about it. The friend made McQueary's email, written Nov. 8, available to the AP on Tuesday on the condition he not be identified.
McQueary, who has been placed on administrative leave and did not coach in Saturday's 17-14 loss to Nebraska, wrote: "I did stop it, not physically ... but made sure it was stopped when I left that locker room ... I did have discussions with police and with the official at the university in charge of police .... no one can imagine my thoughts or wants to be in my shoes for those 30-45 seconds ... trust me."
Added McQueary: "Do with this what you want ... but I am getting hammered for handling this the right way ... or what I thought at the time was right ... I had to make tough impacting quick decisions."
According to the grand jury report, McQueary testified he spoke to his father and then to Paterno before speaking to athletic director Tim Curley and senior vice president Gary Schultz, who oversaw campus police. Paterno has not been charged with any crime, and state prosecutors have said he is not a target. Curley and Schultz are accused of breaking the law by not going to police but maintain their innocence.
McQueary's actions also have been scrutinized, with some critics suggesting he didn't do enough after witnessing what he said was the sexual abuse of a child. Emails to McQueary from the AP were not immediately answered Tuesday.
McQueary's remarks in the email to his friend came less than a day after former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky's admission that he showered with and "horsed around" with boys stunned legal observers. Sandusky's comments, they said, could be used by prosecutors trying to convict him of child sex abuse charges.
This post was edited on 11/15/11 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 11/16/11 at 7:59 am to Alahunter
quote:I have kind of a hard time understanding McQueary's email version of events if only because none of these details were disclosed in his testimony and the victim is still anonymous. What happened after the rape was stopped? Did no one take the child for medical attention? Did no one take the child to a safe place, like a police station? You'd think that at least one of those steps someone would learn the kid's name.
A former Penn State graduate assistant cited by a grand jury report as claiming he saw an ex-assistant football coach sexually abusing a young boy in a campus locker room shower says in an email he made sure the act was stopped and then went to police -- contradicting what the report says
And how does someone witness a horrific, violent act like this and not call 911 immediately? Not in a meeting several days later, but immediately.
This post was edited on 11/16/11 at 8:01 am
Posted on 11/16/11 at 8:25 am to oilfieldtiger
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And how does someone witness a horrific, violent act like this and not call 911 immediately? Not in a meeting several days later, but immediately.
According to the grand jury report he left the locker room and called his dad from a phone in the building. His dad, who was a long time best friend of Sandusky, probably told his son to just come to his house so they could talk about it. This is where the cover-up starts. The next day McQueary and his dad go and talk to Paterno according to the report. This is where the cover-up goes into high gear. Paterno knows that if the cops become involved then shite hits the fan and his career is over. He talks McQueary into keeping his mouth shut. And nothing is done until the shite finally hits the fan this year.
Bottom Line: Penn State decided that maintaining their image was more important than protecting these at risk boys.
Posted on 11/16/11 at 8:27 am to CP3LSU25
Sorry but I'm going to go with the sworn testimony in the grand jury report over an email he sent to a friend.
But let me move past that. Let's say he did talk to the cops and still saw nothing happening from that. He was obviously so distraught over that that he continued to work at the university for another 9 years while seeing Sanducky on campus as well and doing nothing more at all. Sounds logical.
But let me move past that. Let's say he did talk to the cops and still saw nothing happening from that. He was obviously so distraught over that that he continued to work at the university for another 9 years while seeing Sanducky on campus as well and doing nothing more at all. Sounds logical.
Posted on 11/16/11 at 8:36 am to Alahunter
People need to realize that talking to Joe pattern about it was basically like telling the head of the FBI and the president. Too many people are burying their heads in the sand about how much power Joe pa wields and how synchophantic the people are there
Posted on 11/16/11 at 8:49 am to Alahunter
so in an email he claims he stopped the rape and told the cops but somehow didn't divulge that information during sworn testimony. got it
Posted on 11/16/11 at 9:27 am to Pilot Tiger
I guess he just couldn't relive that 35 or 40 seconds to the jury.
Posted on 11/16/11 at 10:14 am to Alahunter
It was reported this morning on the Today Show that the alleged victim denied the incident ever took place?!?!?
Posted on 11/16/11 at 10:23 am to etm512
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he continued to work at the university for another 9 years while seeing Sanducky on campus as well .
why do people assume they all saw Sandusky every day? He had an office on the campus, doesn't mean he was there every day (he might have been) or that there was interaction with others. Also where was his office in relation to other offices? I don't see people in my office for weeks or months at a time if i don't run into them in the elevator or something.
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and doing nothing more at all. Sounds logical
do what exactly? Committ assault? Quit his job? What. its really easy to say what you'd do in hypothetical situations you will never find yourself in.
Posted on 11/16/11 at 10:24 am to Placebeaux
quote:No, Sandusky's lawyer said the other night that he has located the victim and thinks he will say that. However, since the victim was never identified at the time, he can find anyone and claim he is the one that McQueary saw in the shower with Sandusky.
It was reported this morning on the Today Show that the alleged victim denied the incident ever took place?!?!?
Posted on 11/16/11 at 10:29 am to H-Town Tiger
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why do people assume they all saw Sandusky every day? He had an office on the campus, doesn't mean he was there every day (he might have been) or that there was interaction with others. Also where was his office in relation to other offices? I don't see people in my office for weeks or months at a time if i don't run into them in the elevator or something.
I believe from the grand jury report that his office was in one of the football buildings.
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do what exactly? Committ assault? Quit his job? What. its really easy to say what you'd do in hypothetical situations you will never find yourself in.
Report it to the state police, the FBI, child protective services, etc. Yeah it is real easy to point out the right, human thing to do in this case other than reporting it to your daddy and your boss and then saying "frick it, I did what I could."
Posted on 11/16/11 at 10:52 am to Tiger Ryno
quote:This. It doesn't take away McQueary's responsibility to follow up, but I agree.
People need to realize that talking to Joe pattern about it was basically like telling the head of the FBI and the president. Too many people are burying their heads in the sand about how much power Joe pa wields and how synchophantic the people are there
Posted on 11/16/11 at 1:45 pm to teke184
I read the grand jury report. It states that the grad. asst saw a 10 yr old boy with his hands up against the wall & Sandusky raping him. It states he (grad asst) left the building & called his dad. Grand jury report says NOTHING about the grad asst stopping the attack.
So my question is when was McQuery lying...before the grand jury or now?? And how will this affect the trial?
So my question is when was McQuery lying...before the grand jury or now?? And how will this affect the trial?
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