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re: Mickey Mantle hit a ball 565 feet

Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:20 pm to
I'm not dogging Mantle. I'm dogging the fools that believe in myths and legends and don't have the common sense to question things that are clearly BS.

ETA: I was hoping you had just overlooked that 734ft nonsense, but you seem to actually believe it.
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 4:22 pm
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:21 pm to
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I believe you are talking about Jose's shot in '89 playoffs, it only went 480 feet because the were in the Skydome. He hits that same homerun in Wrigley Field it is gone to travel much further because it is out of the stadium and the ball will be able travel back down to ground level.
That's not how they measure homeruns. It's always an estimate, whether it's at the Skydome or Wrigley.

Whenever you hear the distance of a homerun, it is the distance they are estimating it would land at. Not the distance it hit the seats.

Which is probably where this Mickey Mantle "565 foot homerun" myth comes from... back then they probably measured where the ball landed at, rolled, and came to a stop.
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 4:22 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:22 pm to
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You know those were filmed during the December and January?


yeah it's like 70 degrees in January in LA. What's your point? Do you have video evidence of his 565 ft fomerun?
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 4:23 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:22 pm to
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so if you hit a ball that hits 110 ft above ground that is 370 ft away while still rising

do you have a video that shows it was still rising? BTW, that's a fairytale
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:23 pm to
You're confusing a documented accomplishment with a myth FYI they arnt the same thing and it doesn't make something untrue just because you're a hater.
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 4:24 pm
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:24 pm to
You believe in the 734ft homerun?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70608 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:25 pm to
No I've never even heard of such a thing. That has nothing to do with Mantles Home run btw.
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 4:26 pm
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:26 pm to
Well apparently that was one of Mantle's HRs.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:29 pm to
Not on record the longest major league home run on record is 565 by Mickey Mantle that's documentation sponsored by mlb. You don't wanna believe it fine some ppl don't believe in dinosaurs to each his own but the logic you're using to discredit it is false and your motive for disbelief is hate.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:31 pm to
It's not logical.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70608 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:32 pm to
Of course it is it's a very simple equation too you just don't believe it because it didn't happen in HD.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73383 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:34 pm to
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When Mickey Mantle cleared the left-center-field bleachers at Clark Griffith Stadium in Washington on April 17, 1953, the entire baseball world was lead to believe the ball had traveled 565 feet from home plate to the point where it landed. In truth, that figure derived from the distance from home plate to the place where a neighborhood child retrieved the ball. Since this home run was the only one that ever cleared those bleachers during decades of major league and Negro League competition, it is genuinely deserving of recognition. However, the actual distance in the air was probably about 510 feet. The same process was at work for Mantle on September 10, 1960, in Detroit, where his right-center-field rooftopper was reported to have traveled more than 600 feet. From interviews with the surviving source of the original data, it is readily apparent once again that the all had bounced several times before it reached the estimated distance. Included among the other great exaggerations in the history of tape measure home runs are Dave Nicholson's Comiskey Park rooftopper on May 6, 1964, and Dave Kingman's Wrigley Field blast on April 14, 1976. In the case of Nicholson, who was a powerful man, as was Kingman, the figure of 573 feet was provided by "White Sox mathematicians." These unidentified individuals based their calculations on the assumption that the ball traveled completely over the left-center-field roof. however, subsequent investigation indicated that the ball landed on the back of the roof before bouncing into the night. When Kingman launched his wind-aided blow in Chicago, The New York Times somehow concluded that it had flown 630 feet. It has been confirmed that the ball struck against the third house beyond Waveland Avenue, which is situated about 530 feet from home plate. Yet again, we have an example of a genuinely epic home run that has been grievously overstated.


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One other aspect of misrepresentation should be explored. Again, the vast talents of Herculean Mickey Mantle have been comprised by individuals who have unwittingly perpetrated a hoax. Let it be emphasized that the mighty Mick was undoubtedly one of baseball's all time longest hitters. He was an honest, sometimes even self-effacing individual, who was never known to overstate his accomplishments. It is due to his immense popularity and constant involvement in the tape measure process that he is often thrust into the muddle of misrepresentation. By his own account he hit the longest home run of his career on May 22, 1963 at Yankee Stadium. The ball struck the facade on the right-field roof approximately 370 feet from home plate and 115 feet above field level. Almost everyone in attendance believed that the ball was still rising when it was interrupted in midflight by the roof structure. Based upon that belief, this drive has commonly been estimated at about 620 feet if left unimpeded. However, the reality is that the ball was already on its way down, and those reporting the trajectory were victimized by a common optical illusion. It is a scientific fact that if Mantle, or anyone else, had sufficient strength to hit a ball that was still traveling upward when it met the towering facade, he would also have enough strength to clear that same facade by a distance of at least 100 feet. In order for the ball to be rising at roof level, it would have to have been traveling at a lower angle than that which produces maximum distance. If Mantle had provided the same power or velocity, but had launched the ball at a higher and more efficient angle, it would have passed out of Yankee Stadium at a height of over 200 feet! Mantle hit the facade on two or perhaps three occasions, but never cleared it. By his own admission, during his 18-year career at Yankee Stadium, which included thousands of swing variables, he hit several balls to right field in an optimum manner. If he had the power to clear the roof by over 100 feet, he surely would have cleared it marginally on many occasions.


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This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 4:37 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:35 pm to
I didn't grow up watching Mantle either bit I'm not going to reject any athletic achievement I didn't witness or can't look up in youtube.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:35 pm to
It's not, but you're not exactly known for being logical.

So here we are going down that long road again. Not interested.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70608 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:36 pm to
Ah there it is a personal insult (desperate haymaker attempt) to somehow try and prove your position. Not only incorrect but false lazy and ignorant.
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 4:37 pm
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28016 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:37 pm to
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I didn't grow up watching Mantle either bit I'm not going to reject any athletic achievement I didn't witness or can't look up in youtube.
Nobody is rejecting the number because they didn't witness it. They are rejecting it because it's obvious bullshite.
Posted by Bankshot
Member since Jun 2006
5410 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:38 pm to
I can't remember which reporter it was, but he told the story of one of Mantle's HR's driving right into the façade between the decks at Yankee stadium at a very high speed. He said he would have loved to seen how far it could have gone without part of the stadium in the way.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:38 pm to
You really expect that to dissuade Madking?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70608 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:38 pm to
Arguing with proven documentation also logical in your estimation? I guess the guy living in total speculation and personal bias is the one known for logic in your mind. Lmao irony abounds.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216458 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:39 pm to
It happened bud.... just sayin......


And why do you try to upset madking everyday?????????
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