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Mickey Joseph- "This is on me" comment on the Nebraska loss.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:57 am
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:57 am
Look man I like Mickey but I hate when coaches say/use that old and tired excuse. Bottom line is that loss falls a great deal more on the players than coaches and they need to know that there should be no excuses in how bad of football Nebraska has been playing. It does no good saying that. Coaches like Mickey should put some pressure on players and use their personal pride for reference here. He should not be attempting to absorb the blame for shitty football. That excuse is in no way refreshing, its actually old and dated and been said before by terrible coaches not usually good ones. The likes of John L. Smith come to mind. Anywho, he should have said it on "Us" or "Everyone" without throwing anyone directly under the bus.
I don't know if he is positioning himself to think he has a shot at Head Coach but to me that showed me he isn't ready. He doesn't want that smoke anyway. Nebraska is currently career Head coach killer and until they can land some playmakers.
IMO if Nebraska is/was smart they would have saved the 4-7 million or whatever it was and waited till the end of the season to fire Frost and bought a couple players to lead the push to become relevant again. This isn't the 1970's anymore where a Head coach can completely outcoach another team. You need players, period.
I don't know if he is positioning himself to think he has a shot at Head Coach but to me that showed me he isn't ready. He doesn't want that smoke anyway. Nebraska is currently career Head coach killer and until they can land some playmakers.
IMO if Nebraska is/was smart they would have saved the 4-7 million or whatever it was and waited till the end of the season to fire Frost and bought a couple players to lead the push to become relevant again. This isn't the 1970's anymore where a Head coach can completely outcoach another team. You need players, period.
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:01 am to Morpheus
Sir this is an LSU board
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:02 am to Morpheus
gotta get betta
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:09 am to Meauxjeaux
Ehhhh whatever, he was our coach for the greatest receiving corps in LSU history. He deserves some shine here still.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:11 am to Morpheus
He's trying to avoid a mass exodus to the transfer portal and he doesn't know what else to say.
Nebraska has zero talent. They didn't have more talent than Northwestern, and they didn't have more than Georgia Southern. They might be the least-talented team in the Big 10 this year.
And honestly, unless they go all out for an Urban Meyer or Sean Payton or some other $10 mil a year coach who almost assuredly won't take that job, what's at least a five-year rebuild might not be possible at all.
Because when you take away the tradition of that program, which comes from an era of college football when physically pushing opponents around with weight-room-built monsters on the line of scrimmage was a formula for dominance, what you end up with is the fact Nebraska really doesn't have anything every other team in that division - and particularly Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa and Illinois - doesn't have. There aren't enough top-flight athletes in-state to sustain a Top 25 program, and at this point Nebraska is just another name when it goes out looking for talent in Dallas, Chicago, Kansas City, St. Louis, Denver and the other population centers within hailing distance. It's even worse if they try to recruit Florida or California.
I doubt they're ever going to be a dominant program again.
Nebraska has zero talent. They didn't have more talent than Northwestern, and they didn't have more than Georgia Southern. They might be the least-talented team in the Big 10 this year.
And honestly, unless they go all out for an Urban Meyer or Sean Payton or some other $10 mil a year coach who almost assuredly won't take that job, what's at least a five-year rebuild might not be possible at all.
Because when you take away the tradition of that program, which comes from an era of college football when physically pushing opponents around with weight-room-built monsters on the line of scrimmage was a formula for dominance, what you end up with is the fact Nebraska really doesn't have anything every other team in that division - and particularly Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa and Illinois - doesn't have. There aren't enough top-flight athletes in-state to sustain a Top 25 program, and at this point Nebraska is just another name when it goes out looking for talent in Dallas, Chicago, Kansas City, St. Louis, Denver and the other population centers within hailing distance. It's even worse if they try to recruit Florida or California.
I doubt they're ever going to be a dominant program again.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:13 am to Morpheus
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Ehhhh whatever, he was our coach for the greatest receiving corps in LSU history. He deserves some shine here still.
You realize Brady was technically the WR coach right?
Mickey was so bad LSU had to hire a second WR coach just to coach the WRs since all Mickey could do was recruit.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:15 am to Geauxgurt
Ehhh, whatever he was listed as WR coach at the time. Lol
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:27 am to macaoidh
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when physically pushing opponents around with weight-room-built monsters
Back in the seventies lifting wasn't the emphsasis it is now. Nebraska won with speedy backs and 300 pound corn fed linemen. They also had a lot of depth so they could sub a lot on the line keeping playeres fresh. Fun fact, every county in Nebraska in the seventies sent a kid to play there on some sort of County Scholarship.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:29 am to macaoidh
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physically pushing opponents around with weight-room-built monsters on the line of scrimmage was a formula for dominance,
Two words are missing
Juiced up
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:33 am to Morpheus
Then why is it when BK puts blame on the players as he should in order to hold them accountable he gets shite on by the media and some of the rantards on this board for dumping on his players?
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:33 am to Morpheus
I wonder where he learned that line?
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:36 am to Morpheus
Nebraska board
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:38 am to lsu for the win
First of all people that get frustrated with that never had tough love and or played sports before. No reason a guy who is a solid player team player can't take direct criticism at times.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:43 am to Morpheus
He just coached his first game as the head coach against a WAY better team. What's he supposed to do, go up there and shite on the players?
They're not talented and they know they're not talented. That does no good when the team sucks.
They're not talented and they know they're not talented. That does no good when the team sucks.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:48 am to D500MAG
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Juiced up
Boy that’s the truth! Especially in the 90’s. Don’t forget thugs. They had their share of them particularly from California. That 1995 team was on of the best college football teams ever and if my memory serves me right they also won the NC in 1994. That 1995 team beat the snot out of everyone they played. Including a very good Florida Gator team. Tommy Frazier, that OL, some of their running backs, good grief.
I don’t foresee them ever climbing back up to that level of good again unless they get the right HC and up their NIL pay. College football has just changed so much since then. Tom Osbourne isn’t walking through that door anymore. Nor do I see any top shelf coach wanting that job unless they stroke a massive size check.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:48 am to La Place Mike
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Back in the seventies lifting wasn't the emphsasis it is now. Nebraska won with speedy backs and 300 pound corn fed linemen. They also had a lot of depth so they could sub a lot on the line keeping playeres fresh. Fun fact, every county in Nebraska in the seventies sent a kid to play there on some sort of County Scholarship.
When it's assignment football and you're trying to win 17-14 games, you can build a Brandon Burlsworth or Brett Bech out of those country boys from the cornfields.
But when you have to find DB's who can stay with wide receivers playing in an Air Raid offense, the County Scholarship thing no longer works. Those are just warm bodies and you can't beat Ohio State's 5-star players with them.
The only way you can do it at Nebraska is you've got to be able to go into Texas and Florida and California and some of the other big-time recruiting hotbeds and come away with 3-star recruits who are diamonds in the rough, and then do a better job of developing those guys than your competition can. But the problem with that is you have three teams in your division in Wisconsin, Minnesota and Iowa who do that as well or better than anybody in the country - and even that doesn't work when you have to play Ohio State or Michigan and their stacked-up Top 10 recruiting classes.
I guess you could kill it in the transfer portal, but I really doubt you're going to build championship teams by having a bunch of ringers you've brought in.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:11 am to Mingo Was His NameO
I guess I've never liked that take them blame solely approach. This isn't Tennis or Golf.
To add these players are being asked(hopefully) to take responsibility and when things don't go well, pressure should be applied to get better. Removing pressure by absorbing blame doesn't allow for that.
To add these players are being asked(hopefully) to take responsibility and when things don't go well, pressure should be applied to get better. Removing pressure by absorbing blame doesn't allow for that.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:15 am to Morpheus
Nebraska paid $7.5 million for him to get his arse kicked
Nebraska doesn't play another game this month, Frost buy would have dropped by 50% on 10/1.
Nebraska doesn't play another game this month, Frost buy would have dropped by 50% on 10/1.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:15 am to Morpheus
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I guess I've never liked that take them blame solely approach. This isn't Tennis or Golf.
To add these players are being asked(hopefully) to take responsibility and when things don't go well, pressure should be applied to get better. Removing pressure by absorbing blame doesn't allow for that.
There's no point in challenging the guys in the media because they're going to be worse players than their opponent no matter how hard they try. He can challenge them in the room to get better and work.
Saban does that shite because his players are better than who they're playing. He challenges them in the media for effort, not improvement.
Joseph calling guys out to the public has no upside and may lose the locker room one week into his tenure
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:17 am to D500MAG
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Two words are missing
Juiced up
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