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re: Michigan NOA draft from NCAA cites new coach Moore as violator of rules
Posted on 8/6/24 at 12:13 pm to KosmoCramer
Posted on 8/6/24 at 12:13 pm to KosmoCramer
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They watch film, dufus. Film that intentionally doesn't show the sidelines where signals are given.
How do they get film? Also, there's nothing illegal with stealing signs pursuant to the actual text of the rules and their context.
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Posted on 8/6/24 at 12:15 pm to Buckeye06
You wanna address that video of Urban Meyer on record stating he hired a guy to scout Michigan year round? 
Posted on 8/6/24 at 12:33 pm to KosmoCramer
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Film that intentionally doesn't show the sidelines where signals are given.
guess what does show the sidelines?
sitting in the stands opposite the coaches sidelines. something that about 40k people could do without much effort
Posted on 8/6/24 at 12:34 pm to Gen Patton
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They haven't proven he was actually doing the recording which is the illegal part
Except its not
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11.6.1 Off-Campus, In-Person Scouting Prohibition. Off-campus, in-person scouting of future opponents (in the same season) is prohibited
Where does it say anything about recording?
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He was doing that for CMU as a favor for friend not hired
Then why did CMU not come out and say that immediately?
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Already debunked
According to Michigan?
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Not against the rules he didn't have staff-making or employment authority
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So basically everything you just alleged was either debunked or not illegal when they allegedly occurred
No what you said is simply Michigan fans making shite up to try and act like they are better than the rest of CFB.
They cheated and got caught. It happens, just dont be a bitch about it.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 12:37 pm to Chair45
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what's funny is that you think other teams DON'T do stuff this.
I dont think other schools have coaches disguised on the sidelines.
But yeah everyone cheats, you got caught. And now you should pay the joke of consequences that the NCAA decides.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 12:43 pm to More beer please
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11.6.1 Off-Campus, In-Person Scouting Prohibition. Off-campus, in-person scouting of future opponents (in the same season) is prohibited
Where does it say anything about recording?
where does it say ANYTHING about me or any other person not being able to record a team's signals and posting it to youtube? or me recording signals and selling it to teams?
what don't you understand about 3rd party? the people who did the recording are NOT bound by the NCAA, since they don't work for the universities. unless the stadiums have rules which prohibit recording (which they don't) and sharing it with whomever they want, this is a non-issue
i'm not bound by the same rules/regs of my friend's workplace, since I don't work at his workplace. pretty f*cking simple
Posted on 8/6/24 at 12:44 pm to More beer please
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Where does it say anything about recording?
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11.6.1 Off-Campus, In-Person Scouting Prohibition. Off-campus, in-person scouting of future opponents (in the same season) is prohibited
OMG you finally got me with a gotcha!!!
Silly rabbit, university staff (of which Stallions was IIRC) can outsource scouting, read the history of 11.6.1 and rationale and get back to me
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Then why did CMU not come out and say that immediately?
My speculation is that this happened before all the faux outrage by haters occurred so it wasn't something deemed that important since this is SOP for college programs across the country:
a) hire someone who does scouting of opponents and knows his shite
b) that someone hires third parties to go to opponents games to scout the other team
c) team takes advantage of that legally-sanctioned gathered information
This isn't some rocket science operation, I honestly don't know how teams prepare without this apparatus in place
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Already debunked
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According to Michigan?
Brian Sanderson of CBS confirmed that fact to On3 I think this morning
Posted on 8/6/24 at 12:46 pm to More beer please
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More beer please
username checks out. you're probably hammered while typing these stupid and illogical answers repeatedly
Posted on 8/6/24 at 12:49 pm to Chair45
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where does it say ANYTHING about me or any other person not being able to record a team's signals and posting it to youtube? or me recording signals and selling it to teams?
It actually addressing that directly since you arent paid by the university. So yeah you doing all of that is perfectly fine. 
Posted on 8/6/24 at 12:55 pm to Gen Patton
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You wanna address that video of Urban Meyer on record stating he hired a guy to scout Michigan year round?
that is not evidence of anything besides a coach saying that he has someone on staff who watches all their games, presumably game film.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 1:00 pm to Gen Patton
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all the faux outrage by haters
the fanbase that whined about tattoogate for a decade doesn't get to whine about faux outrage
Posted on 8/6/24 at 1:03 pm to Dire Wolf
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that is not evidence of anything besides a coach saying that he has someone on staff who watches all their games
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presumably game film
I love that you are giving OSU and Meyer the benefit of the doubt here
The point of the matter is scouting of other teams happens in person, I'm honestly unsure how college football teams function without it, doing it in person gives you certain vantage points from which you understand your opponent more than watching the TV broadcast. Hell, if a school wanted to hire me as 3rd party to attend games and scout the opponent with my phone, I'll do it easy peasy. That's not illegal, I guess in this post-Spy Gate hit media world we latch onto certain salacious psy op terms and just assume something criminal occurred. It's all laziness.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 1:07 pm to Dire Wolf
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the fanbase that whined about tattoogate for a decade doesn't get to whine about faux outrage
I'm not even a fan of either school, I don't recall feeling strongly against OSU with Tattoogate at the time and I think the punishment was unduly harsh but the outrage over in-person scouting is just stupid when you understand how college football operates.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 1:23 pm to Gen Patton
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I love that you are giving OSU and Meyer the benefit of the doubt here
The point of the matter is scouting of other teams happens in person, I'm honestly unsure how college football teams function without it, doing it in person gives you certain vantage points from which you understand your opponent more than watching the TV broadcast. Hell, if a school wanted to hire me as 3rd party to attend games and scout the opponent with my phone, I'll do it easy peasy. That's not illegal, I guess in this post-Spy Gate hit media world we latch onto certain salacious psy op terms and just assume something criminal occurred. It's all laziness
The crime is getting caught, not what rules they broke. This has always been the NCAA's MO.
So even if that video is evidence of anything, which it isn't, it doesn't matter because Michigan is caught red-handed in the most retard ways possible.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 1:31 pm to Dire Wolf
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The crime is getting caught, not what rules they broke. This has always been the NCAA's MO.
So even if that video is evidence of anything, which it isn't, it doesn't matter because Michigan is caught red-handed in the most retard ways possible.
Refresh me, how did they get caught? Like what broke all this? Staffers are allowed to outsource in-person scouting which is what Stalions (US Marine) did.
This post was edited on 8/6/24 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 8/6/24 at 1:34 pm to Gen Patton
Posted on 8/6/24 at 1:38 pm to Dire Wolf
What? Is that what broke the story or?
Posted on 8/6/24 at 1:44 pm to Gen Patton
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What? Is that what broke the story or?
what are you trying to get at?
Posted on 8/6/24 at 1:49 pm to Chair45
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what don't you understand about 3rd party? the people who did the recording are NOT bound by the NCAA, since they don't work for the universities. unless the stadiums have rules which prohibit recording (which they don't) and sharing it with whomever they want, this is a non-issue
Stallions paid them to be there, and funded their tickets (either directly or indirectly). Stallions was employed by Michigan.
Are you now going to dispute this too?
This post was edited on 8/6/24 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 8/6/24 at 1:52 pm to Gen Patton
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I'm not even a fan of either school, I don't recall feeling strongly against OSU with Tattoogate at the time
You might not have. But Michigan fans were acting like Tressel was Hitler for lying about free tattoos.
That self righteous fanbase 100% deserves every ounce of shite they are getting because of this.
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