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re: Michigan NOA draft from NCAA cites new coach Moore as violator of rules

Posted on 8/7/24 at 8:57 am to
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40350 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 8:57 am to
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Yet Harbaugh was suspended by the least for multiple games and the NCAA is about to release a report about their rule breaking.
We want to be a above reproach in everything and do everything by the rules. If you don’t, if you cheat to win, then you've already lost, according to Bo Schembechler. And Bo Schembechler is about next to the word of God

-Jimbo Harbaugh
Posted by Chair45
Member since May 2024
387 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:07 am to
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you misunderstood

it's one thing for your rival to hate you, but when everyone hates you.. maybe it's you?





i'm so hurt. some random douchebag fans are calling me names. this CLEARLY is overshadowing the natty and the 3 straight conference titles that my team won. i'm obviously gonna have to ignore all the recent success and start to care about some internet fans who don't affect me at all, and hope that my team loses so i can re-gain their approval somehow...

Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25272 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 10:25 am to
The only time I directed things to you was at the end, so acting like it was throughout is absurd, par for the course for you thus far. You have been acting like a hooked worm for the past 28 hours, squirming and saying things don't matter until you decide they do.

It's circular logic to point out that there is an NOA going to Michigan this week which discusses allegations, what they found, and punishments? That is not circular, that is just logical.

As I said, I hope you are not representing people in court.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25272 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 10:26 am to
Nah I agree with your point. Being in the military certainly doesn't make you better than other people.

I'm talking about the failed general and the piece of furniture
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80525 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 10:30 am to
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this might be my last post on this topic



Then posts four more times in one page
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
2098 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 10:54 am to
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It's circular logic to point out that there is an NOA going to Michigan this week which discusses allegations, what they found, and punishments? That is not circular, that is just logical.


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I find it hilarious that there are people saying no rules were broken. Yet Harbaugh was suspended by the least for multiple games and the NCAA is about to release a report about their rule breaking.


Literally the quintessential example of circular logic right there
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25272 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:01 am to
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Literally the quintessential example of circular logic right there



It's circular logic to say the NCAA is sending a report out indicating WHAT rules Michigan broke (literally the genesis of this thread), and the B1G suspended Harbaugh for related behavior?




Cool
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
2098 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:06 am to
Definition of circular logic: logical fallacy in which the premise of an argument assumes the conclusion to be true.

What you just did
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25272 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:57 am to
So the ncaa isn’t sending an NOA to Michigan? Because that’s my conclusion

Holy crap you are trying so hard and being so wrong at the same time
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
2098 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:02 pm to
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So the ncaa isn’t sending an NOA to Michigan? Because that’s my conclusion



Yeah, that's literally circular logic
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46515 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:14 pm to
Maybe you need to take another break like you did in 2015
Posted by Chair45
Member since May 2024
387 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 4:13 pm to
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Maybe you need to take another break like you did in 2015


maybe you need to stop taking those sham, non-existent classes at UNC that were concocted especially for athletes and stop pretending like you know WTF you're talking about

Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25272 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:26 am to
Insider on OSU website says this is imminent now. I'll add some of the main quotes (he has known a lot before but this is a rumor as of now of course)


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Discussions revolve(d) around a minimum acceptable framework from the NCAA's perspective, which includes partial vacations of the 2021, 2022, and 2023 seasons, a 2 year postseason ban, loss of recognition of the 2021-23 B1G titles and football championship", fines, scholarship reductions, probation, and significant penalties levied against current and former coaches and staffers.


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The formal NOA is believed to include a detailed account of the scheme's operation and logistics, information from TCUN interns and other individuals who were paid to film games, evidence of multiple football staffers accessing the information, evidence of the scheme being funded by individuals connected to the athletic department, evidence of collusion with at least one CMU coach to get Stalions on their sideline, evidence that current and former staffers were aware of the scheme, and a point-by-point explanation of the advantage the scheme provided to the team.


LINK
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60091 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:33 am to
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which includes partial vacations of the 2021, 2022, and 2023 seasons, a 2 year postseason ban, loss of recognition of the 2021-23 B1G titles and football championship", fines, scholarship reductions, probation, and significant penalties levied against current and former coaches and staffers.


Posted by A12 Oxcart
On the float out in the Belt
Member since Dec 2022
1202 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:46 am to
The NCAA can't take the title away - it's not theirs to revoke.
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 11:47 am
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25272 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:48 am to
It says that the playoff committee would have to obviously agree of course
Posted by A12 Oxcart
On the float out in the Belt
Member since Dec 2022
1202 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:59 am to
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It says that the playoff committee would have to obviously agree of course

I guess I'll believe it when the banner they have (likely) already created gets shelved with the Fab Five stuff.
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 12:00 pm
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25272 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 12:09 pm to
I just have no idea if there's any sort of way where fans don't acknowledge Michigan as National Champs.

Do these allegations (if they are in fact taken as fact when this moves forward) change people's thoughts?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80525 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 12:12 pm to
It depends on what evidence is contained in the NOA.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46515 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 12:12 pm to
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Do these allegations (if they are in fact taken as fact when this moves forward) change people's thoughts?


No they were still a really good team and beat everyone on the field. Just like Louisville basketball, Reggie Bush, etc.

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