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Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:21 pm to LSUJuicer
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The announcers start immediately saying how pine tar should be legal. "baseball should wants a better grip on the ball." Finally one says
That's exactly what Aaron Boone said in the ESPN broadcast.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:21 pm to SaintCajun
quote:
Only difference between pine tar on a cold night and rosin on a hot day is rosin is legal.
pretty much this
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:24 pm to BayouBengals03
But its against the rules rabble rabble rabble.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:36 pm to BayouBengals03
Funny thing is David Roidtiz has been cheating for a dozen years now and the league just turns it's head the other way.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:56 pm to BayouBuster
Can the major league pitcher, that is posting in this thread, weigh in on the effects of pine tar for a pitcher at that level? I know it's easy for us slap dicks to say it's not a big deal, but these same people don't realize what professional pitchers can do with a scuffed baseball.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:58 pm to Bho
I mean, Farrell said after the game that players want pitchers to have pine tar so they can have control.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:06 pm to BayouBengals03
Has Harold Reynolds or any other black baseball voice weighed in yet?
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:12 pm to BayouBengals03
He was asked:
"But you knew it was illegal?"
He responded:
"Yeah"
End of debate
"But you knew it was illegal?"
He responded:
"Yeah"
End of debate
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:14 pm to LSUsmartass
There's not really a debate going on tbh
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:35 pm to Bho
quote:
weigh in on the effects of pine tar for a pitcher at that level?
it truly is just a grip thing. MLB balls are just terrible. The mud they rub them up with dries and become basically a chalk. Some places (Ari, Col and a few others) are damn near impossible to pitch at (and dangerous) without something to help your grip.
Sunscreen & rosin, pine tar, and shaving cream are all solely for grip. Should be legal, and they basically are so long as you don't Pineda it.
It's when you start evolving into other stuff that actually makes the ball move unnaturally that it becomes cheating (to most people in the game). I've actually seen very very little of this either through naivety or it's become a lost art.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:37 pm to LfcSU3520
I guess he thought he was darker than he actually was.
Nope. Not black enough
didn't blend well
Nope. Not black enough
didn't blend well 
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:38 pm to BayouBengals03
Weren't you saying it wasn't pine tar last time brah?
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:38 pm to LfcSU3520
Do you think Pineda made it too obvious? Or did Farrell overreact?
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:41 pm to LfcSU3520
quote:
Some places (Ari, Col and a few others) are damn near impossible to pitch at (and dangerous) without something to help your grip.
The stats confirm this. : p
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:43 pm to LfcSU3520
If grip is such a necessary thing, how come there isn't a players union movement to change the balls? I'm a little confused if it's such a necessary evil as a pitcher and the balls in certain fields make it such a hazard.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:46 pm to Cajun Revolution
In Japan you can just take the ball out of the wrapper and play with it.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:48 pm to Jcorye1
quote:
Do you think Pineda made it too obvious?
yes, if it wasn't so obvious Red Sox probably would not have complained
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:50 pm to Jcorye1
quote:
Do you think Pineda made it too obvious? Or did Farrell overreact?
As Farrell stated after the game.. It was so obvious he had to say something.. I don't think you will find to many detractors of that opinion, especially knowing how obvious he made it last time they played. Be discreet and no one cares, make it obvious and you are either oblivious, dumb or cocky.. I think Pineda is just oblivious.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:50 pm to The Boat
Red Sox planted that on his neck.
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