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re: McMurphy accusing Urban Meyer of being aware of domestic abuse allegations in 2015
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:42 pm to FairhopeTider
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:42 pm to FairhopeTider
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Apparently other staff members' wives knew that Urban knew. I'm sure if they deposed everyone, Urban better hope they all have their stories straight.
If it were Alabama they would. We'll see how good the Ohio State spin machine is.
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:43 pm to KosmoCramer
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They would need proof that Shelley told Urban.
Ruining his wife’s reputation in turn.
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:44 pm to KosmoCramer
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They would need proof that Shelley told Urban.
Yes, they would, but the public won't. No one can honestly believe this was unknown to Urban. The only people that truly need definitive proof would be the US Department of Education if they wanted to sanction OSU. FWIW, I don't think this blows up to that level.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:44 pm to KosmoCramer
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It Ohio State policy related to Title IX
Got it, thanks.
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The Trump admin just released new guidelines on Title IX but I don't know how that would affect things retroactively.
That was actually going to be my next question. I think they rescinded a lot of the lower thresholds that enabled schools to go after people themselves. Since these incidents occurred before that happened though, I wonder if the old stuff still applies.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:46 pm to nvasil1
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Is the university policy in concurrence with Title IX interpretations, or its own thing?
For all intents and purposes, it's the universities interpretation of their obligations under Title IX. All public universities have a very similar policy. You can assume it's as strict as it needs to be and that's it. Few places are going to enact more stringent policies than necessary because of the headache.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:47 pm to slackster
Radio saying the victim is saying the athletic office told her not to call cops because he’d get fired and make the program look bad. OSU might get some heat too
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:50 pm to Jaydeaux
if asked before I apologize but could OSU or NCAA call "lack of institutional control" even if Urban did not know
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:51 pm to KosmoCramer
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They would need proof that Shelley told Urban.
Nah, just common sense/circumstantial evidence works perfectly fine from a legal perspective.
Victim tells Shelley and several other coaches' wives. Shelley has talks with Victim about the reaction/action of various wives and coaches as she tries to help Victim. But she doesn't tell her own husband?
Yeah, right.
BTW, by 2015 Urban knew of this guy's past. Is it really a stretch that his wife wouldn't tell him about new transgressions? This wasn't their first rodeo.
Unrelated to your post, but my conclusion is this is all about court of public opinion for Urban. It's a PR disaster to keep Meyer beyond this week. Recruiters will eat that shite up this offseason. Media will talk about it incessantly. Toss in the #metoo crowd and that makes a mighty large shitburger to eat for the sake of winning some football games.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:52 pm to nvasil1
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Since these incidents occurred before that happened though, I wonder if the old stuff still applies.
One would assume the policies in place at the time of the 2015 incident would prevail. The one major issue that I looked into was a change in university policy on 9/1/15. Prior to that date, domestic violence wasn't even mentioned in the policy. It was strictly a sexual harassment policy. However, the incident seems to have occurred in October 2015, so the newer policy with domestic violence would have been in play.
This all happened right after OSU made pretty significant overhauls to their Title IX policies. Urban claiming he was unaware of the obligations would be a poor decision if he goes that route.
Suggested email from OSU as they were adopting new policies in 2015.
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:53 pm to jlovel7
The fact that the university still hasn’t issued a statement is pretty bad
Posted on 8/1/18 at 5:03 pm to CarolinaGamecock99
No doubt about that.
It's been 8 hours.
It's been 8 hours.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 5:04 pm to KosmoCramer
How hard are they partying in Ann Arbor right now?
Posted on 8/1/18 at 5:07 pm to Dr RC
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Good luck with that line of defense.
NOBODY will believe that a wife would neglect to tell their husband that a woman she texts with regularly is getting beaten by his employee.
Good luck if there’s no definitive proof she told Urbs convincing the PTB at Ohio State to shitcan him.
He’ll, the media bought Hillary’s bullshite about her email servers. You’d be surprised what people will profess to believe when they want to.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 5:08 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Urban placed on administrative leave.
Ryan Day interim head coach.
Ryan Day interim head coach.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 5:08 pm to KillerNut9
Yikes here we go
Posted on 8/1/18 at 5:09 pm to Roger Klarvin
This is the best quote in this thread. What a fricking retard. So you mean to tell me the penn state stuff that went on was a non story too?
Posted on 8/1/18 at 5:09 pm to KillerNut9
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Urban placed on administrative leave.
Oh shite.
No way he filed a report in 2015 or else they wouldn't go this route.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 5:10 pm to slackster
Fired by weeks end imo.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 5:12 pm to 1999
I doubt they complete their investigation in a few days. 
Probably will know his fate by the first game I’m assuming.
Probably will know his fate by the first game I’m assuming.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 5:12 pm to 1999
He gone
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