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re: McMurphy accusing Urban Meyer of being aware of domestic abuse allegations in 2015
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:29 pm to KosmoCramer
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:29 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
What sexual misconduct allegedly occurred?
I quoted the handbook above, but I'll say this - the fact that domestic violence is included in the "Sexual Misconduct" policy is just asking for people to ignore it unintentionally. It makes no sense.
That being said, the policy clearly states domestic violence is considered sexual misconduct. Urban is likely in trouble.
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:30 pm to slackster
quote:
According the OSU policy in place in 2015...
That's certainly more problematic. That probably wouldn't stand up in court since it was hearsay, but definitely a problem for Urban. And may be why he allegedly lied...
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:31 pm to Dr RC
quote:Again, at will employment only pertains to non contracted individuals
Again, Ohio is an at will work state.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:32 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
That probably wouldn't stand up in court since it was hearsay,
It doesn't matter if it's hearsay according to the policy.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:33 pm to 1999
quote:
Awful Announcing has heard most ESPN CFB reporters were at a company seminar when this broke,
Which cannot a coincidence. Brett just dad dicked ESPN.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:34 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:
Which cannot a coincidence. Brett just dad dicked ESPN.
The word alpha gets thrown around a lot on this site. Brett may actually be one.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:35 pm to slackster
quote:
That being said, the policy clearly states domestic violence is considered sexual misconduct. Urban is likely in trouble.
Is the university policy in concurrence with Title IX interpretations, or its own thing?
I haven't been able to keep up with the thread, so apologies if this has been answered.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:35 pm to FairhopeTider
quote:
It doesn't matter if it's hearsay according to the policy
Reasonable cause to know is a relatively somewhat high burden.
You'd need more evidence than the ex-wife saying Urban should have known.
Shelley would have to flip on Urban or text messages from Shelley to Urban would have to be found.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:36 pm to jlovel7
quote:
The word alpha gets thrown around a lot on this site. Brett may actually be one.
No doubt, always been one of the best reporters.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:36 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:
Which cannot a coincidence. Brett just dad dicked ESPN.
They actually did have a college football "boot camp" scheduled today. Doesn't excuse them though.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:37 pm to nvasil1
quote:
Is the university policy in concurrence with Title IX interpretations, or its own thing?
I haven't been able to keep up with the thread, so apologies if this has been answered.
It Ohio State policy related to Title IX. The Trump admin just released new guidelines on Title IX but I don't know how that would affect things retroactively.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:37 pm to FairhopeTider
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They actually did have a college football "boot camp" scheduled today. Doesn't excuse them though.
I think he's saying Brett probably knew they were having a seminar today and released it when he knew ESPN would have their hands tied.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:37 pm to beaverfever
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:38 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Again, at will employment only pertains to non contracted individuals
I guess that. But it wasn't false to say Ohio is an at will state.
It doesn't matter anyway. This dude is done.
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:38 pm to jlovel7
quote:
I think he's saying Brett probably knew they were having a seminar today and released it when he knew ESPN would have their hands tied.
Gotcha. Savage move for sure.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:39 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
That's certainly more problematic. That probably wouldn't stand up in court since it was hearsay, but definitely a problem for Urban. And may be why he allegedly lied...
The fact that it's hearsay is irrelevant. If your wife hears from the alleged victim, and your wife tells you, that's certainly enough for someone to "reasonably believe that sexual misconduct may have occurred."
There are multiple examples of people being reprimanded or even fired when they DID report Title IX violations but didn't follow up enough or didn't do it quick enough. Not reporting it altogether would be difficult to survive for Urban.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:40 pm to slackster
quote:
and your wife tells you
They would need proof that Shelley told Urban.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:41 pm to KosmoCramer
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Shelley would have to flip on Urban or text messages from Shelley to Urban would have to be found.
Apparently other staff members' wives knew that Urban knew. I'm sure if they deposed everyone, Urban better hope they all have their stories straight.
All it took was Urban doing the bare minimum and reporting it....even if it was already under investigation.
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:41 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
Shelley would have to flip on Urban or text messages from Shelley to Urban would have to be found.
Shelley could be in trouble herself depending on her relationship to OSU. I don't know enough about her career to say one way or the other.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:42 pm to KosmoCramer
Good luck with that line of defense.
NOBODY will believe that a wife would neglect to tell their husband that a woman she texts with regularly is getting beaten by his employee.
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