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re: Manny Machado trade might happen sooner rather than later

Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:53 pm to
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The Yankees have a rookie all star at second.
Who may get moved back to SS if they decide to not re-sign Didi when he becomes a FA in 2020.
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I could see them moving Andujar to first and getting Machado
They believe in Bird and would play Drury at 1B before, the bigger need is SP and depending on Chapman's injury RP.
They had a concern about Andujar and his defense before the season but he has shown he is more than capable of playing 3B. I don't see them moving since Austin and Bird are both still young.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 1:54 pm
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:29 pm to
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Morosi echoes a prior report from USA Today’s Bob Nightengale, writing that he hears Dodgers Class-A right-hander Dustin May is of particular interest to the Orioles. So, too, is Double-A catcher Keibert Ruiz, whom Baseball America recently dubbed the No. 26 prospect in all of baseball.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:31 pm to
they arent getting ruiz and i wouldnt offer may for a rental with no real fit
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:34 pm to
I still say Phillies move in and acquire him.
I kinda predict
Hamels to Seattle
Happ to the Yankees
Machado to the Phillies
Ramos to the Nationals
Hand to the Braves
Britton to Seattle


probably none happen, just what I feel although there will be more moved with relievers since the Yankees, Diamondbacks, Dodgers, and Giants will probably grab one.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Off McVoy
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:36 pm to
So, the Astros stand pat?
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:37 pm to
think machado goes to milwaukee
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:39 pm to
Nah, just don't know who they would get, it would be a reliever more than likely.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:40 pm to
Brewers seem to be targeting pitching
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:56 pm to
Milwaukee’s farm is meh it’s just hard to see them trading for a rental
Posted by fhsdemonfan3131
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:15 pm to
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The Yankees have a rookie all star at second.
Who may get moved back to SS if they decide to not re-sign Didi when he becomes a FA in 2020


So your argument is the Yankees get machado so they can move Torres to short in 2020? Andujar would change positions before Torres.
Posted by swamie
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:18 pm to
Did it for CC and I would be fine with them doing it again.



Crasnick saying Brett Phillips can be a piece for Machado. That’s not a low piece so I can’t imagine having to include Hiura or Burnes with Phillips.

That would leave plenty available for a big SP trade.

Chado + deGrom after adding Yelich and Cain in the off-season. David Stearns would have people saying Theo who?
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:39 pm to
My argument is the Yankees won't get Manny because they don't need him. They have a young players who has exceeded expectations and is playing well.
However, I do believe that Torres moved back to SS before Andujar would move to 1B.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:58 pm to
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Chado + deGrom after adding Yelich and Cain in the off-season. David Stearns would have people saying Theo who?



They don’t have the pieces to land both. O’s Are entertaining 7 offers, so you know it will be competitive. They aren’t getting him without giving Hiura I reckon.

If they somehow add both then it would really deplete their system. If you’re renting Chado for 60 games you better go out and win it

Braun’s old
Cain’s old
Domingo busted
Aguilar could go same route possibly
Yelly is a solid player but no center piece
Starting Staff is uninspiring

As a cubs fan the brewers don’t scare me esp over the long term. Add DeGrom & Chado & I will perk up
Posted by fhsdemonfan3131
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 4:17 pm to
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My argument is the Yankees won't get Manny because they don't need him. They have a young players who has exceeded expectations and is playing well. However, I do believe that Torres moved back to SS before Andujar would move to 1B.


I’ll play along here. I also don’t believe we get Manny but say they did you honestly think they would bench Didi to move tores to short? First base is the Yankees weakness. Andujar is solid at third he would be above average at first.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 4:18 pm to
They’d move Didi to 2B, Torres to 3rd & Machado would play SS. Andujar would be relegated to a bench role
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 4:23 pm to
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but say they did you honestly think they would bench Didi to move tores to short?
No one mentioned benching Didi, I said if they choose not to re-sign him when he becomes a free agent in 2020. He will still be relatively young (31) but they may choose to go in another direction knowing they have someone who can play SS. The Yankees do not resign Didi, move Torres to SS, and let Estrada take over 2B.

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Andujar is solid at third he would be above average at first
Says who? He has never played first in the minors or the majors. The Yankees have Bird (25) and Austin (26) plus they have Drury (26) who has seen action at 1B.

Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 4:28 pm to
theres also rumors that machado will be packaged with britton. dont know what his trade value is right now, but its not high
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 4:29 pm to
Manny and Britton to the Astros
Posted by High C
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 4:31 pm to
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Morosi echoes a prior report from USA Today’s Bob Nightengale, writing that he hears Dodgers Class-A right-hander Dustin May is of particular interest to the Orioles. So, too, is Double-A catcher Keibert Ruiz, whom Baseball America recently dubbed the No. 26 prospect in all of baseball.


I'm hearing that the O's are now insisting that Tommy Lasorda's right pinky finger be added in or they're going to back away from a deal.
Posted by CobraCommander83
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:44 pm to
This was on mlbtraderumors.com


2:40pm: Outfielder Brett Phillips is one prospect who could go from the Brewers to the Orioles in a potential trade package, reports ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick (via Twitter). Phillips doesn’t have a clear path to playing time in an outfield mix that has Lorenzo Cain, Christian Yelich, Ryan Braun, Eric Thames and Domingo Santana, but he’s more or less big league ready and could give Baltimore a potential replacement for Adam Jones in center field. Crasnick notes that Jones, a free agent at season’s end and a trade candidate in his own right, wouldn’t stay in center field beyond 2018 even if he ultimately returned to the O’s.

Phillips, 24, is in his second season at the Triple-A level and has batted a combined .280/.359/.498 with 23 homers and 20 steals through 716 plate appearances at that level. He entered the season ranked as the game’s No. 80 overall prospect, per Baseball America.

9:34am: Morosi now tweets that in addition to Buehler and Verdugo, the Dodgers are also unlikely to include Ruiz in a trade for a rental player.

8:50am: The Manny Machado saga continues to be the focal point of Major League Baseball’s rumor mill and appeared to take a step forward over the weekend. Seven teams have reportedly made offers for Machado, with the Dodgers and Brewers now reported to be the most serious suitors. Today, MLB.com’s Jon Morosi takes a look at those top two teams and the manner in which each lines up with Baltimore as a trade partner.

Morosi echoes a prior report from USA Today’s Bob Nightengale, writing that he hears Dodgers Class-A right-hander Dustin May is of particular interest to the Orioles. So, too, is Double-A catcher Keibert Ruiz, whom Baseball America recently dubbed the No. 26 prospect in all of baseball. It’s not clear how willing the Dodgers are to part with either player, though Morosi notes that L.A. would be reluctant to trade away either Walker Buehler or Alex Verdugo for a half-season of Machado (or any rental player).

The Brewers, however, appear to be a better fit in terms of the type of MLB-ready arms that they can offer, Morosi observes. Corbin Burnes and Luis Ortiz are both on the cusp of MLB readiness (to say nothing of Brandon Woodruff), and the Brewers have multiple players with MLB experience that have been back and forth between Triple-A and the Majors this season, including Orlando Arcia, Domingo Santana and Keon Broxton.

Meanwhile, Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com reports that some of the teams who’ve approached the Orioles have expressed interest in package deals involving both Machado and one of the Orioles’ relievers — Zach Britton, Brad Brach and Mychal Givens, specifically. The Orioles are open to packaging Machado and Britton or Machado and Brach in order to enhance a potential return, per Kubatko, but the team’s preference would be to hang onto Givens, who is controlled through 2021.

It’s certainly easy to understand why the O’s would prefer to hang onto Givens, whose stock is down from last year thanks to worsened control an a half-mile-per-hour dip in his average fastball velocity. There’s no urgency to trade him as there would be with Brach or the struggling Britton, each of whom is a free agent at season’s end. If Givens is finishes the season strongly or turns things around in 2019, his value could take a substantial step forward given that remaining club control. Of course, there’s also a case to be made that the O’s should be amenable to the idea of trading virtually anyone on the roster, given the poor quality of the farm system and the sizable gap between them and the Yankees and Red Sox — not only in 2018 but over the next few seasons as Baltimore reshapes its roster.
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