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Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:12 pm to BluegrassBelle
I think "savvy" is the better term. He's no mensa, but he knows how to evoke a nearly pavlovian response to his every action.
Knowing exactly what people who love you and hate you will do all the time is a crazy huge advantage.
Knowing exactly what people who love you and hate you will do all the time is a crazy huge advantage.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:12 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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But it's disingenuous to point the finger at Trump as childish (which he most certainly can be at times) when the majority of the team had already childishly decided to wipe their arse with his invite (which, again, was extended as a custom/tradition).
No statement was made by the eagles tho. They decided to send a smaller delegation of players. They didn’t announce that they weren’t going or they are protesting
They simply decided to not go, not make a big stink about it, and Trump make a big deal about it.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:15 pm to WestCoastAg
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Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:18 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Actually, I just looked into it a bit further...
Trumps current net worth is estimated around $1.5 billion from credible sources such as Forbes, although even that is debatable as some claim trump is not a billionaire and he did fool Forbes in the past lying about his net worth.
At any rate, trump defaulted on the following debts:
$245 million loan he took out to purchase eastern airlines which he rebranded trump shuttle that failed in less than a year.
$3 billion(!) default on debt he took out for Trump Taj Mahal.
$1.8 billion default on debt taken out by Trump marina and trump plaza casinos.
Trumps current debt is estimated at $1 billion (quote from Forbes):
There is a good chance he has not paid taxes in decades.
If trump had actually had to pay back all of the money he has borrowed, he would be way beyond broke. He would actually be several billion in the hole.
Basically trump took a 200-300 million inheritance and has lost billions and currently owes over a billion. He is about as big of a failure in his business enterprises over his life as we have seen.
Trumps current net worth is estimated around $1.5 billion from credible sources such as Forbes, although even that is debatable as some claim trump is not a billionaire and he did fool Forbes in the past lying about his net worth.
At any rate, trump defaulted on the following debts:
$245 million loan he took out to purchase eastern airlines which he rebranded trump shuttle that failed in less than a year.
$3 billion(!) default on debt he took out for Trump Taj Mahal.
$1.8 billion default on debt taken out by Trump marina and trump plaza casinos.
Trumps current debt is estimated at $1 billion (quote from Forbes):
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Through heavy digging, Fortune identified the loans Trump has on these other buildings that are not included on his released balance sheet. Add to the loans and mortgages he does disclose and Fortune has determined that Trump’s total debt balloons to nearly $1 billion, or about double what he specifically acknowledges he owes. And it could be even larger.
There is a good chance he has not paid taxes in decades.
If trump had actually had to pay back all of the money he has borrowed, he would be way beyond broke. He would actually be several billion in the hole.
Basically trump took a 200-300 million inheritance and has lost billions and currently owes over a billion. He is about as big of a failure in his business enterprises over his life as we have seen.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:18 pm to DelU249
quote:I actually agree with this, but in this case, it seems like a more of "here we go again with more lies and bullshite" than "argggh outrage!"
no one is eating anything up in the way you imagine. no one is being deceived. if he can find a black and white issue or point, and you come with nuance, you've lost. this is one of those things. he finds a binary issue, he doesn't create them, and then he lets his opposition hang themselves.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:19 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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It's about being the better person, Trump's gonna Trump and, since he's POTUS, aint too much anyone can do about it. The Eagles basically had 2 choices: be the better people and be cordial and respectful to Trump and present a morally superior appearance OR be whiny babies and decline because they're triggered over Trump twitter statements, ball was in their court here POLITICS bro
So because he's president, he's exempted from being responsible for an action you're condemning? Or because that's just how he is?
Also, this fails to acknowledge the basic idea that the Eagles really didn't do an anything prior to Trump's statement. At that point, what was the morally superior route they should have chosen? Show up anyways after being uninvited?
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:20 pm to DelU249
quote:we have people ITT talking about him being the single smartest president of all time while having others lauding his moves by calling the eagles players triggered little bitches. both sides eat shite like this up at a really disappointing level
no one is eating anything up in the way you imagine
quote:but he does create them. this was a non issue. seriously. im sure we all assumed some eagles players werent going to go the ceremony, but there was no public announcemnt from these players or the team. then trump issues his press release yesterday and sarah sanders spends a portion of her press conference today on the issue and the next thing you know its a big story because trump decided to make it one. just like this past fall when the whole issue of kneeling was pretty much dead until he decided he wanted to make a really big issue about it at his rally. at every step of the way, he has done what he can to make this bigger than it needs to be and hes doing that because he knows that it will earn him points with his support base and thats all he cares about
he finds a binary issue, he doesn't create them, and then he lets his opposition hang themselves.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:21 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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There is a good chance he has not paid taxes in decades.
Ok Rachel Maddow
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:24 pm to wildtigercat93
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No statement was made by the eagles tho. They decided to send a smaller delegation of players.
I never said they made a statement.
The result is the same difference.
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Trump make a big deal about it.
He disinvited a team that clearly had no intention of showing up as a team. No real biggie. Gave them what they wanted.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:24 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:24 pm to Rep520
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So because he's president, he's exempted from being responsible for an action you're condemning? Or because that's just how he is?
I'm not even condemning it, thats just Trump being Trump some people agree with it some people don't I see both sides he could've articulated it in a less belligerent fashion but I'm not him so...
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Also, this fails to acknowledge the basic idea that the Eagles really didn't do an anything prior to Trump's statement. At that point, what was the morally superior route they should have chosen? Show up anyways after being uninvited?
Not select the small delegation route and go as an entire team before Trump's rescission, this isn't rocket science broseph
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:27 pm to WestCoastAg
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Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:27 pm to DelU249
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MUH FOUNDING FATHERS!!!
My post you responded to was calling PT out for claiming Trump potentially has the highest IQ of any sitting President in our history.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:27 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Your derangement syndrome is spectacular
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:27 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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There is a good chance he has not paid taxes in decades.
Ok Rachel Maddow ?
I know who Maddow is but have never watched her show.
However, I'm serious that he has probably rarely paid $1 in any given year in taxes. He has lost so much money in the past and made so little compared to what he has lost, I seriously doubt he pays anything in taxes very often.
He is NOT a successful business man. He is really spectacularly unsuccessful in business.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:27 pm to BluegrassBelle
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There’s already been multiple examples posted in this thread of players who didn’t attend under other administrations.
Intent matters
How many did it in a form of protest
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:28 pm to BluegrassBelle
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My post you responded to was calling PT out for claiming Trump potentially has the highest IQ of any sitting President in our history.
Is "potentially" really an outrageous claim? LOL think about what you're typing these people aren't monuments they're humans like Trump is
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:29 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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There is a good chance he has not paid taxes in decades.
considering he gets audited by the IRS....doubtful.
Unless, imbecile, you believe the IRS is on it and let's him not pay taxes.
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If trump had actually had to pay back all of the money he has borrowed, he would be way beyond broke. He would actually be several billion in the hole.
who borrowed that money? Him, his company, a consortium? You work in wealth management (
) surely you understand the differences in liabilities. quote:
Tiger n Miami AU83
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:30 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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