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re: LHSAA’s definition of “Select” taken to court - playoff picture blurry
Posted on 8/22/23 at 12:10 pm to Antonio Moss
Posted on 8/22/23 at 12:10 pm to Antonio Moss
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There has never been a definition of "select" voted on by the LHSAA membership.
im pretty damn sure too that its not in the by laws that they have to either. pretty sure it could be done by the EC. and EC could make changes so long as those changes were sent by email and you had certain number of days to challenge
i believe it was something like 80% of emails about the change over before last year, that were sent to principals, went unread.
well at some point thats on the principals.
and last years playoffs were the best they have been in a long long time in all sports
keep it
get rid of districts
get rid of 1a, 2a 5a etc and go div 1/2/3/4/5 and select/non select and try to have even numbers in all classes.
playoffs for top 16 or 32 depending on class size.
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 12:19 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:
There has never been a definition of "select" voted on by the LHSAA membership.
Maybe but it definitely wasn’t random
Posted on 8/22/23 at 12:26 pm to chalmetteowl
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Maybe but it definitely wasn’t random
How so?
Posted on 8/22/23 at 12:37 pm to blueboxer1119
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Catholic has benefited greatly from having "feeder" schools from everywhere.
How? You can count on one hand the number of kids that have played and contributed to any varsity sport at Catholic their freshman year. The first kid that Coach Weiner even allowed to dress out varsity as a freshman was CEH in 2013 and that was only because Clyde went to Catholic as an 8th grader.
The "play varsity your first year so we can cheat the system" isn't a thing at Catholic like you are trying to make it out to be.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 1:11 pm to Antonio Moss
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Maybe but it definitely wasn’t random How so?
Maybe I have the lowest standard, but the whole Catholic League was select. St Paul’s and Catholic BR were select. John Curtis and Evangel were select
One more question… they ruled that we go back to 21’s definition of select and nonselect. Do we stay with the four equal divisions for select and nonselect in the playoffs?
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 8/22/23 at 1:14 pm to TheRouxGuru
There aren’t very many schools in your second category.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 1:21 pm to chalmetteowl
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they ruled that we go back to 21’s definition of select and nonselect.
FYI, that is not what was ruled.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 2:30 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
quote:
Never really thought about it. But I guess that explains why there weren't freshmen on the varsity team. I always thought it was a Weiner/Athletic Dept thing.
Travis Minor played as a frosh. He only grew up 45 minutes away though
Posted on 8/22/23 at 2:39 pm to Maximus
quote:Nope
Travis Minor played as a frosh
He played 94,95,96
Clyde was the first and only player to play as a freshman under Dale. And like someone else mentioned, he attended 8th grade Catholic. The Catholic attendance zone was extremely small
We thought I would be eligible my freshman year because Riverbend is in McKinley’s zone. It got denied b/c apparently it’s only part of McKinleys zone that was eligible for Catholic.
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 8/22/23 at 3:42 pm to lsupride87
It's time for this split to come to the eventual conclusion.
One of two things need to happen, and at this point, I could care less which one is chosen.
1) The split is permanent. We go with 8 classes - 4 select, 4 non-select, much like what we saw last year. However, the classes are set for the entire season, not just playoffs. SO we redistrict the state into new districts for each class. Crossover games are allowed, so Chalmette and Holy Cross, etc could continue to meet in non-district.
2) We get rid of the split completely and go back to the old system.
Either option would be far better than what we have now.
One of two things need to happen, and at this point, I could care less which one is chosen.
1) The split is permanent. We go with 8 classes - 4 select, 4 non-select, much like what we saw last year. However, the classes are set for the entire season, not just playoffs. SO we redistrict the state into new districts for each class. Crossover games are allowed, so Chalmette and Holy Cross, etc could continue to meet in non-district.
2) We get rid of the split completely and go back to the old system.
Either option would be far better than what we have now.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:04 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:. The traditional public schools were fed up with charters, magnets and open enrollment schools , the EC and the membership in general will fix this -
One more question… they ruled that we go back to 21’s definition of select and nonselect. Do we stay with the four equal divisions for select and nonselect in the playoffs?
Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:11 pm to lsupride87
quote:
I couldn’t play varsity my freshman year at Catholic because I wasn’t in district
That's not why you didn't play varsity your freshmanyear
Posted on 8/22/23 at 5:11 pm to donut
quote:Yes, yes it was
That's not why you didn't play varsity your freshmanyear
Football isn’t the only sport that exists
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 8/22/23 at 5:12 pm to LSUFanHouston
So as of right now we’re back to 5 classes and 4 select divisions?
Posted on 8/22/23 at 5:17 pm to RGJ18
quote:?
How
According to Antonio Moss, this is how.
quote:
In the past, there was the Same School System exception to residential eligibility. If a kid matriculates from a feeder school within the same school system, then they are granted full eligibility.
What schools are in the feeder system for Catholic High and where are they located?
Posted on 8/22/23 at 5:36 pm to blueboxer1119
Somehow Catholic High benefits from a rule that applies to everyone.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 5:41 pm to blueboxer1119
quote:You have ignored me this entire thread
blueboxer1119
Lived in riverbend, went to st. Aloysius, not eligible freshman year
Nola- lived near Highland, went to st. Jude, not eligible freshman year
I could go on and on. I can’t even remember a single freshman ever getting eligible unless they went to 8th grade Catholic
There was no feeder school anything from 2003-2006, and I know there wasn’t any available either until at least 2012
Posted on 8/22/23 at 6:00 pm to BayouNation
There has to be a better way to stop play transfers for sports. Public schools are getting destroyed for recruiting but private schools, for some reason, take players from the hood and place their paying students on the bench. All for a stupid trophy.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 6:26 pm to John_V
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ublic schools said those "white Christian private schools" were cheating by legally recruiting players to attend their schools.
Recruiting players has been against LHSAA rules for as long as I can remember. That's back into the 70s. Of course, it always happened to some degree.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 6:30 pm to mdomingue
It’s funny that people think the private schools are the only cheaters. Public schools are just as bad or worse.
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