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re: LHSAA 2021 Combined 5A Football Bracket

Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by hometownhero89
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:35 pm to
I wonder who West Monroe would have blamed for paying the refs in this bracket.
Posted by Naptime
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 9:56 pm to
Yet WM votes in favor of the split every time
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 9:59 pm to
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our understanding is Its done it passed during the 5a district meetings before the new year. Our ad informed us of this over the Holidays that it passed with very little push-back from any district and that principles in 4a are already planning to do the same in the next cycle meeting in 2 years.



i thought this was to be done during the LHSAA convention coming up at the end of this month...
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:05 pm to
Not sure why. Literally the only private school to ever beat WM in the Shows era was Evangel. Not Catholic, not St. Aug., not Shaw, not Curtis. Just. Evangel. Speaking with all of the guys I grew up with we’ve all agreed we’re all for it being back together and just 4 classes. Make that ring mean something special.
Posted by Mr LSU2001
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 6:49 am to
While I have never been to the convention above my pay grade Lol! Our ad described The convention as a meeting where they will make it final as that the last meetings to list the agreements that have been made. And i guess I theoretically there could be a Hangup but most divisions have all agreed to districts and other things. If it was being brought to a vote to the whole Lhsaa then the would vote convention as items that need to be voted on by all schools is done at the convention. But it’s our understanding that the 5a schools has already had there talks during the meetings about classification this season and held there vote. What the formality of the informing to the Lhsaa or do they have to repeat there vote to make it official? I am not sure I would have to ask our Ad. I will ask him today and see what he says
Posted by Dale Murphy
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 8:06 am to
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Yet WM votes in favor of the split every time


You realize JJ27 isn't the principal at WMHS right? Not sure why you commented this in response to him. As he has since responded, most fans I know hate the split. But unfortunately, we don't get to vote.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:08 am to
I don’t think you understand how woke the principals are
Posted by Mr LSU2001
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:28 am to
Oh no I understand. But I don’t think you realize how much money the split has cost the public schools in athletics. And like I said the problem with the split was never the 4a and 5a schools.
It’s the small schools who have kept this going. You have to have a 2/3 vote to pass anything when brought up to the entire Lhsaa. Which was why they didn’t do it that way this time. Just took a simple majority, could have been by 1 vote didn’t matter. The big schools have seen enough of the split. I have been in class all day I will see our ad this afternoon at our basketball game I will get clarification on what is happening at convention as he and our principal are going.
Posted by RedPop4
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:31 am to
Only principals can vote, however. More than a few bucked their own coaches and a.d.'s wishes.
Posted by Mr LSU2001
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:38 am to
Yes that is true however again this is not a vote being brought up to the entire Lhsaa
Just 5a , so 64 schools voted so if 33 votes yes it passes. And it’s our understanding it’s Done. Was voted on by the principles at the 5a districts meeting. It was even brought up at the 4a level and our principal said they all agreed to wait and see if the 5a vote passed and would revisit in 2 years. I will get clarification this afternoon from our Ad.
Posted by shawnlsu
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 10:06 am to
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Nope ain’t losing to Catholic either.
Zachary was the only team beating us


Delusions of grandeur
Catholic and Zachary in the final.
Bears by a TD in a grind it out 2nd half game much like the Catholic/Jesuit one.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 10:08 am to
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But I don’t think you realize how much money the split has cost the public schools in athletics.
I think this is overblown… you can still play whomever you want in the regular season. The schools that have lost the most chances to host selects in the playoffs have good fanbases so haven’t lost much
Posted by shawnlsu
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 10:15 am to
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But I don’t think you realize how much money the split has cost the public schools in athletics.

Its tax dollars. IMO, the only ones really getting screwed here are the private schools ETA: AND the taxpayers.
Public schools will always have a source of "free" revenue to pull from.
This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 10:35 am
Posted by redfishfan
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 10:18 am to
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Public schools will always have a source of "free" revenue to pull from.


Sports programs are generally funded by the sport and their gates and fundraising. I'm sure there are exceptions but most public school sports programs use zero tax payer money outside the money that was used to build the facilities.
Posted by Mr LSU2001
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 10:23 am to
Yes public schools get tax money however majority of that money is on the education side. Athletics has its own budget and gets very little tax money unless they designate some for facilities. Travel, uniforms and all other expenses come from the athletic budgets. we are all Loosing money public and private.
Posted by shawnlsu
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 10:23 am to
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ports programs are generally funded by the sport and their gates and fundraising. I'm sure there are exceptions but most public school sports programs use zero tax payer money outside the money that was used to build the facilities.



That is how its supposed to work. I've been around school systems for quite some time now. That's not how it really works.
Posted by shawnlsu
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 10:27 am to
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we are all Loosing money public and private.

I understand that part. Education is slim margin game and the government is terrible at those.
What I'm saying is, the public schools "financial loses" will always be covered with public funds. That isn't the case with private schools.
Coaches salaries in public are usually covered 100% by a teacher salary, public school transportation is used by public school teams (buses, fuel, INSURANCE, all covered by the tax payer. The list goes on.
This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 10:29 am
Posted by Mr LSU2001
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 10:28 am to
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That is how its supposed to work. I've been around school systems for quite some time now. That's not how it really works.



if public schools you say are using tax money for sports they are Loosing money since the Split like all programs are public and private. I have no doubt there are schools that bend the rules and use tax money and i am sure some always have.

Posted by shawnlsu
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 10:29 am to
Yeah, I see it as apples and oranges in the same argument/situation
Posted by redfishfan
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 10:31 am to
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That is how its supposed to work. I've been around school systems for quite some time now. That's not how it really works.


Like I said I'm sure some schools aren't on the up and up with that but everyone I was a part of was. No longer in the Education field but spent time at 4 different public schools and none of them used tax payer money on sports.
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