re: Lhsaa basketball meeting

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You don’t think there are enough people interested who just don’t want to actual referee?

Not getting screamed at , disrespected, etc? They just chill at the score table…

I’d do it…. Can’t referee bc of Achilles tear not too long ago, but something like that would appeal to me.

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The 3 worst cases of harassment I have seen have been on clock operators

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is holding the ball affecting the fairness of the game state wide?
How will speeding up the game affect member schools state wide?
Is forcing teams to shoot more under the threat of potential penalty going to make the game better or worse?

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Are these real questions?

who ever went to a basketball game or for that matter ever played in one and said they wanted to see LESS shots?

Aplogize in advance for a novice question, but who typically runs the game clock at high school games? Is it an official or a volunteer that the host school provides?

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Are these real questions?

who ever went to a basketball game or for that matter ever played in one and said they wanted to see LESS shots?

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perhaps you missed the point, its more than just speeding up the game or taking more shots

shot clock was put into NBA and NCAA for fans and TV, not because of competitive discrepancies



is some teams holding the ball such a big problem that it requires a corrective measure that affects every high school program, every player, every official and every boys and girls varsity game in the state?

when I coached we played at Newman when Billy Fitzgerald was there. They were up by 8 to start the 4th Qtr and went into this big spread offense with a man at the FT line and a man in each corner. They didnt hold the ball, they were passing and cutting and moving but they were not shooting. Then BANG backdoor cut, bounce pass, and layup. They extended the lead and blew us out by 20 running a stall offense that we couldnt stop.

i can also remember games that we lead, tried to stall and hold the ball and couldnt handle the defense and lost the game.

what I see is a shot clock creating turmoil, controversy and really bad basketball. To fix some teams holding the ball, the unintended consequence will be teams throwing up desperation shots because the shot clock is running out.

Not to mention one or two bad teams playing each other and the whole game becomes a farce of crazy shots and turnovers because they are not skilled enough to run an offense under pressure of the defense and the shot clock creating a constant sense of urgency.

Do you all realize that a shot clock violation is a turnover that results in a deadball? Team A cant get a shot off, shot clock violation, whistle, stoppage in play, Team B then takes out the ball. Resume play. Team B cant get a shot off. Violation, whistle, stoppage in play. Team A takes out the ball. Resume play. Over and over.

Think about Girls Basketball too, not just Boys.

What I predict will happen is even more one on five type play where coach keeps the ball in the hands of their best player to make sure they at least get a shot off.

is holding the ball or stalling really that big of a problem?

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In 1995, St. Martinville played at Opelousas for the district title. Opelousas won the game by 3 or 4 points and I vividly remember the refs from the Opelousas association high fiving the players and coaches from Opelousas after the game.

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yeah they are some really funny horror stories of Opelousas Association

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Aplogize in advance for a novice question, but who typically runs the game clock at high school games? Is it an official or a volunteer that the host school provides?

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For Football in the state of Louisiana, game and play clocks are operated by officials who have registered with the LHSAA. Last I heard, basketball is normally done by volunteers/school employees.

GA requires a certified GHSA official to run a basketball shot clock. I looked into it.

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For Football in the state of Louisiana, game and play clocks are operated by officials who have registered with the LHSAA. Last I heard, basketball is normally done by volunteers/school employees.

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and generally speaking most local associations don't have enough officials available on Fridays for all games to have play clock operators. A few years back LHSAA and LHSOA offered to train and certify play clock operators - it is and was woefully underutilized.

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and generally speaking most local associations don't have enough officials available on Fridays for all games to have play clock operators. A few years back LHSAA and LHSOA offered to train and certify play clock operators - it is and was woefully underutilized.

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Agreed. We have a number of guys who have retired from on-field work due to age or health. We have also recruited a number of guys from other sports. For clock operators, one of our best recruiting sources, has been recruiting wives, female school teachers, and other females that want to make some extra money without having to worry about the physical requirements.

Women do a pretty good job of paying attention, and have much better handwriting when it comes to charting penalties for the foul reports that we turn into the state for evaluation purposes.