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re: Let's do a vote. Death Penalty for Penn State?
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:03 pm to Adam Banks
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:03 pm to Adam Banks
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For the last time. Its not about the child rape. That is for the courts. Its the cover up of child rape for the purposes of protecting athletics. That is why the NCAA should get involved.
There was nothing to protect athletics from but bad PR. If you want to reach and say not having that negative PR gave them an advantage and that's punishable, I guess you could but that's a huge reach.
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Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:05 pm to dawgfan24348
YES.
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:07 pm to oilfieldtiger
Penn state generates as much or more than LSU does in football.
They arent gonna de empahsize shite.
Nor should they.
Clean house and start over is appropriate.
They arent gonna de empahsize shite.
Nor should they.
Clean house and start over is appropriate.
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:08 pm to saintsfan22
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There was nothing to protect athletics from but bad PR. If you want to reach and say not having that negative PR gave them an advantage and that's punishable, I guess you could but that's a huge reach.
Money. Plain and simple. Money. Football is the biggest money maker for the AD and a huge black eye like this cuts off their cash cow. They did it to protect their athletic department.
This post was edited on 7/16/12 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:08 pm to dawgfan24348
No. The football team or any athletic team for that matter did not get any benefit from this situation.
The coaches, AD, and university president did not violate any NCAA rules besides be horrible people. The NCAA is not there to regulate personal behavior. It is there to help provide a level playing field for college athletics. If it starts to even tangentially regulate personal behavior, then it'll be slippery slope for when someone else does a horrible thing.
The coaches, AD, and university president did not violate any NCAA rules besides be horrible people. The NCAA is not there to regulate personal behavior. It is there to help provide a level playing field for college athletics. If it starts to even tangentially regulate personal behavior, then it'll be slippery slope for when someone else does a horrible thing.
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:10 pm to TIGRLEE
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Penn state generates as much or more than LSU does in football.
They arent gonna de empahsize shite.
Nor should they.
Clean house and start over is appropriate.
I agree. They're about to lose hundreds of millions in settlement money they aren't giving up football money too.
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:11 pm to saintsfan22
OP, can we get an updated tally of the votes?
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:11 pm to saintsfan22
Rank 2nd n attendance and 4th in revenue.
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:12 pm to Deactived
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do you really think that school will self impose the death penalty?
Well that's the test, isn't it? What's most important to them as a learning institution and its community.
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:12 pm to dawgfan24348
Yes to death
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:13 pm to bbrownso
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The football team or any athletic team for that matter did not get any benefit from this situation.
recruiting and donations would have been as high if people knew a coach had raped children in the lockerroom shower and the head coach covered it up?
really......
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:14 pm to saintsfan22
quote:actually, predictions based on previous abuse scandals show that the average settlement is about $1-1.5 million. i mentioned it before in another thread, but there's a link on spencer hall's every day should be saturday site to an attorney's analysis. it gets into how the insurance the university carries would likely cover all of it, and the university endowment is likely not to be significantly impacted.
I agree. They're about to lose hundreds of millions in settlement money they aren't giving up football money too.
ETA: changed the grammar before sophandros could call me out again.
This post was edited on 7/16/12 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:16 pm to Nonetheless
quote:
Nonetheless
Let's do a vote. Death Penalty for Penn State?
OP, can we get an updated tally of the votes?
I got 39 no
17 yes
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:17 pm to CptBengal
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recruiting and donations would have been as high if people knew a coach had raped children in the lockerroom shower and the head coach covered it up?
O'Brien is having a good offseason recruiting so far and they got 208 mil in donations last year(2nd highest in school history).
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:19 pm to oilfieldtiger
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actually, predictions based on what previous abuse scandals show that the average settlement is about $1-1.5 million
This isn't your ordinary abuse scandal. With a pretty much open and shut case on the school's liability lawyers will be out for blood.
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:22 pm to saintsfan22
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O'Brien is having a good offseason recruiting so far and they got 208 mil in donations last year
last year and up until the freeh report...all the delusional were saying Joe Pa wasnt involved.
now we know he orchestrated the coverup
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:24 pm to dawgfan24348
Yes. A bold move must be made by the Board of Trustees to try to reform their image for the long term. Otherwise, they will go down in history as a Jim Jones like cult culture, as a program that put football ahead of the rape of children.
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:25 pm to saintsfan22
quote:and that helps fuel the argument for the death penalty or some organizational punishment. the program was protected. kids lives are wrecked, a monster's in prison, coach is dead, the university leadership is likely going to prison for some period of time, and the university looks morally bankrupt, but we oughta be in good shape for 2012!
O'Brien is having a good offseason recruiting so far and they got 208 mil in donations last year(2nd highest in school history).
This post was edited on 7/16/12 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:26 pm to dawgfan24348
IDK if its been mentioned, but are we talking football death penalty or entire AD death penalty?
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:27 pm to Srbtiger06
Death Penalty
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