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Posted on 5/14/14 at 6:45 pm to CptBengal
frick him.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 7:46 pm to TigerStripes06
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That's a great idea. You should all breach your ridiculously overpriced contracts.
I wonder if that would warrant a ban?
In reading the contract, if an owner refused to present his team a game, that would justify his ouster, same hold true for a player?
Posted on 5/14/14 at 7:48 pm to QJenk
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And pretty sure Donald sterling cant beat the league. They may not be able to strip ownership of the team from him. But that wont mean he will still have his same powers. He will not be invited to any owners meetings. He will not have any say over what happens in the clippers organization. Face it Mr. Sterling, it's over. Go home. No one man is bigger than the league itself.
Tell me what point in the constitution did Sterling violate. I read the constitution and I could not find where he violated one of the clauses that allowed for him to be removed.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 7:52 pm to CptBengal
NBA players should play and not talk. Owners should own and not talk.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 7:55 pm to boosiebadazz
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Yes. Under the terms of Paragraph 13 of the constitution, the owners can terminate another owner's franchise with a vote of three-fourths of the NBA Board of Governors, which is composed of all 30 owners. The power to terminate is limited to things like gambling and fraud in the application for ownership, but it also includes a provision for termination when an owner "fails to fulfill" a "contractual obligation" in "such a way as to affect the [NBA] or its members adversely." Silver and the owners could assert that Sterling's statements violated the constitution's requirements to conduct business on a "reasonable" and "ethical" level.
So, you think the league can successfully claim that making a statement to your girl in your own home rises to the level of "failing to fulfill a contractual obligation"?
People seem to focus on the next line
quote:However, if I am reading this correctly, this only applies if the averse affect results from a failing to meet a contractual obligation.
in "such a way as to affect the [NBA] or its members adversely.
What contract obligation has he failed to meet?
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:01 pm to boosiebadazz
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That said, article 13 also contains a more general requirement of ethical conduct in business dealings and contracts. Sterling's comments could be deemed unethical.
Even if they are deemed unethical, according to this article, they were not said in a business dealing or related to a contract.
Clearly the constitution did not intend to govern one's speech or it could have easily done so. Instead of speech it used the word conduct which people are trying to contort to mean speech. There has always been a distinction between words and deeds. Speech is speech and conduct is conduct.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:02 pm to Adam Banks
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The role of the commissioner is to act in the best interests of the league. If he was dumb enough to make those comments to a minority along with his long history of racial controversy and poor ownership then he didnt deserve to be an owner.
History: Irrelevant
Deserve: Irrelevant
There is a constitution of the NBA that governs these things.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:17 pm to Geauxgurt
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This whole fiasco has been embarrassing, and as horrible as Sterling is, I've lost more respect for the players and their pissy reactions to this moreso than Sterling''s ridiculous behavior.
That says quite a bit more about you than anything else.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:36 pm to shel311
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2. As far as letting down fans, I'm not saying I agree with his stasnce, but if he is taking a stance for a cause he believes in, that kind of trumps "letting down fans", wouldn't you think? ( Again, putting aside whether your thoughts on the actual stance here)
You can't put aside someone's personal stance on the subject. If Lebron and other players boycott over this, it is letting down the fans. As you can see, many posters here are asking for more sports, less drama. Go play basketball and stop trying to stir the pot.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:23 pm to Nonetheless
frick Lebron. The world doesn't revolve around him. I am almost positive that Lebron has said racist remarks too.
frick Sterling too.
frick Sterling too.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:47 pm to slackster
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That says quite a bit more about you than anything else.
What does it say?
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:51 pm to CptBengal
He will do no such thing. He just wants to see the people react. Many reasons he won't do it, won't get paid, will actually be fined so he will lose money and he is not going to pass prime years when I am sure there are records he wants to break.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:51 pm to CptBengal
LeBron should sit out until Trayvon is brought back to life.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:52 pm to The Boat
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LeBron should sit out until Trayvon is brought back to life.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:29 pm to CptBengal
Attention whore is an attention whore. I'd bet my life this wouldn't happen. He will cave last minute while everyone says he was brave for standing up for the disenfranchised. Maverick Carter must have come up with this bright idea.Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:40 pm to slackster
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That says quite a bit more about you than anything else.
Really? Because I am sick of the double standards that are put out there? Sterling is a POS, but racists whining about another racist is pathetic.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:16 pm to shel311
No. He's a bitch for wanting sterling gone but when it comes to just as racist comments like Larry Johnson or players dropping the N word silence. He's the tatted up, 6'8 nba version of Jesse Jackson.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:54 pm to novabill
Check out 35A (c) in conjunction with 13(a)
35A(c): says there will be a 1 million dollar fine for any statement made detrimental to basketball or the association
13(a) says owners can vote to remove owner for any violation of a section of the constitution
So they can remove him, and he may get some money back.
35A(c): says there will be a 1 million dollar fine for any statement made detrimental to basketball or the association
13(a) says owners can vote to remove owner for any violation of a section of the constitution
So they can remove him, and he may get some money back.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:04 am to SammyTiger
LINK
ARTICLE 13
TERMINATION OF OWNERSHIP OR MEMBERSHIP
The Membership of a Member or the interest of any Owner may be terminated by a vote of three fourths (3/4) of the Board of Governors if the Member or Owner shall do or suffer any of the
following:
(a) Willfully violate any of the provisions of the Constitution and By-Laws, resolutions, or agreements of the Association.
In reading 13a I am not seeing anything that he has done to violate this article, have you.
Is there a provision of the Constitution or By-lays, any resolution or agreements that govern what he can or cannot say, especially in his own home?
I cannot imagine any honest and intelligent person reading this clause to infer that it intends to cover private speech.
I still contend that while he may be a racist and a bigot, I have not seen where he has done anything that would allow the NBA to have a vote to strip him of his team.
ARTICLE 13
TERMINATION OF OWNERSHIP OR MEMBERSHIP
The Membership of a Member or the interest of any Owner may be terminated by a vote of three fourths (3/4) of the Board of Governors if the Member or Owner shall do or suffer any of the
following:
(a) Willfully violate any of the provisions of the Constitution and By-Laws, resolutions, or agreements of the Association.
In reading 13a I am not seeing anything that he has done to violate this article, have you.
Is there a provision of the Constitution or By-lays, any resolution or agreements that govern what he can or cannot say, especially in his own home?
quote:
35A(c) Any person who gives, makes, issues, authorizes or endorses any statement having, or designed to have, an effect prejudicial or detrimental to the best interests of basketball or of the Association or of a Member or its Team, shall be liable to a fine not exceeding $1,000,000 to be imposed by the Commissioner. The
Member whose Owner, Officer, Manager, Coach or other employee has been so fined shall pay the amount of the fine should such person fail to
do so within ten (10) days of its imposition.
I cannot imagine any honest and intelligent person reading this clause to infer that it intends to cover private speech.
I still contend that while he may be a racist and a bigot, I have not seen where he has done anything that would allow the NBA to have a vote to strip him of his team.
This post was edited on 5/15/14 at 12:12 am
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