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re: Lebron James this year, before we all forget

Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:55 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:55 pm to
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this is beyond stupid

little things by people not the best player will drastically affect the outcome of games
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:56 pm to
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Ouch. Thought LeBron was better than that.

Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:57 pm to
You basically just said wins don't matter. Of all sports, they matter the most in basketball. Especially in the NBA finals.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:58 pm to
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You basically just said wins don't matter.

not when judging individual players

i mean is robert horry really that much better than karl malone or barkley? c'mon
Posted by TulaneUVA
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:59 pm to
Whoa dude. Where have you been
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:59 pm to
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I already forgot...because Ray Allen just saved his career


His career is what it is. He's playing in his 4th NBA finals with 1 championship at a young age.

They wouldn't have been in the game in the closing minutes if he wouldn't have completely dominated the 4th quarter in all aspects. He had a couple of non clutch plays toward the end but bottom line is they aren't even competitive at the end without him. And most of that was without Wade on the floor.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:59 pm to
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not when judging individual players i mean is robert horry really that much better than karl malone or barkley? c'mon


You are going full retard to make a useless point. You are already an attorney bro. No need to practice on the MSB.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:00 am to
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But for the life of me, I don't understand what the frick he does sometimes in late game situations.



Bro, I love LeBron, but freaking this.


Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:01 am to
Wow
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:02 am to
MJ in a no hand check league would have been unguardable

But props to LBJ - he made Parker's arse quit at the end
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:04 am to
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Wow

Really is amazing when you break down the numbers.

Would be less amazing if you didn't couple it with the fact that he is so lights out on defense.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:04 am to
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But props to LBJ - he made Parker's arse quit at the end
Did the same to Rose a few years ago.

Did the same to Paul George in game 7 last series
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:05 am to
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MJ in a no hand check league would have been unguardable


Gets me every single time
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:06 am to
We are witnessing the second greatest player ever. He can even get in GOAT conversations but MJ did more in a much tougher era.

I have the utmost respect for LBJ
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:08 am to
How many Titles do you think MJ would have won against the Spurs?
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:09 am to
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We are witnessing the second greatest player ever. He can even get in GOAT conversations but MJ did more in a much tougher era.

I'm not sure how the era was really tougher.

When Jordan played, you couldn't play zone defense. If you watched the 4th quarter tonight, and I'm positive that you did, how many people in Jordan's era do you think could handle LeBron 1 on 1?

The only thing tougher about Jordan's era IMO is they had better big men.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:10 am to
I really couldn't tell you. It would be AMAZING to see him dissect their defense and watch what they throw at him. Man that would be great.

Something else that would be great...watching Lebron go against man his whole career
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:11 am to
He was unguardable in a hand check league. What could be have done in a spread floor, pick and roll league where teams couldn't routinely bump him off his path?

How many times have you ever seen LBJ slammed to the floor? For Jordan that was practically every night.

The team defense today is better than the 80s but the individual dirty play on the ball back then was far worse than today.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:11 am to
Having lived through MJ and Bron, I've just never seen anyone rule the floor like Bron. Not just making the great shots and all that, but absolutely owning the floor.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:12 am to
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The team defense today is better than the 80s but the individual dirty play on the ball back then was far worse than today.


I agree, but I would think that would benefit LJ more just because he is so powerful that he could overcome that individual dirty play.
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