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Posted on 6/20/16 at 11:36 am to PT24-7
LeBron is able to defend large 4s and point guards at an elite level. That is just fricking sick.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 11:44 am to dukke v
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Other than that he is def in my top 10 all-time....
Posted on 6/20/16 at 11:51 am to Deactived
If you were starting a team right now and could pick between Lebron and MJ at 25 years old, who do you pick?
You take MJ.
Is this even a question?
You take MJ.
Is this even a question?
Posted on 6/20/16 at 11:59 am to Deactived
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what players besides jordan would you take over him?
Magic, Hakeem,Jabbar,Shaq,Bird,Russell... Look I think Bron is the BEST athlete to ever dribble a basketball.... But there are things that others do that he can't... Right now he is the best For this era.... Not even close... I laugh at people thinkinh Curry is in the same stratasphere as Bron...
Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:05 pm to cas4t
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Completely and utterly disagree. You're essentially punishing Lebron for being drafted at 18 years old with that reasoning. Age is undoubtedly the best measure.
I'm not punishing anyone. LBJ got 3 more years of development and coaching and devoted himself full time to basketball to develop his game. MJ didn't get that. Do we just punish MJ for not getting 3 extra years of training with NBA coaching staffs and trainers? Lebron was a millionaire paying for personal training sessions
When LBJ's career ends, they will say "LBJ played XX season in the NBA and won XX titles" exactly like they say about everyone else. Lebron had the choice to go to college for 3 years.
The arguments are insane
Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:30 pm to Deactived
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Ill take the guy that is bigger, stronger, and can play and defend 1-5
This is what makes the age logic acceptable. Guarding 1-5?
How many true 5s are in the NBA today? Honestly, who is the kareem, Hakeem, Shaq, Ewing, etc that LBJ is having to defend? Frickin Ibaka thinks hes reggie miller now and shooting 3s all the time.
This is what all the Lebron fan boys never get, hes a great player but winning 3 championships by chasing the best free agents in the game around the eastern conference isn't the same as taking a garbage franchise and winning 6 in a row. That's something Jordan would have ever considered. He had more pride than that.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:32 pm to geauxjo
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If you were starting a team right now and could pick between Lebron and MJ at 25 years old, who do you pick? You take MJ. Is this even a question?
+1
Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:33 pm to Buckeye06
quote:and Jordan had the choice to go to the NBA....
Lebron had the choice to go to college for 3 years.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:36 pm to lsupride87
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Lebron had the choice to go to college for 3 years.
and Jordan had the choice to go to the NBA...
I fully agree. I'm saying that LBJ from 18-21 got better coaching and was able to devote himself full time to the game.
I'm not punishing LeBron when he got better training in those 3 years than MJ did.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:38 pm to Buckeye06
I honestly think if MJ goes to the NBA at 18, his career is worse because of it. He wasn't close to ready for the NBA. It wouldn't have been good for his career at all
Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:51 pm to lsupride87
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I honestly think if MJ goes to the NBA at 18, his career is worse because of it. He wasn't close to ready for the NBA. It wouldn't have been good for his career at all
Totally possible, and Lebron may have flamed out if he had to go to class for 2 years
I just think a comparison at the end of their careers will be based on titles and MVPs, not who came into the league at what age
Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:53 pm to Buckeye06
quote:Absolutely.
I just think a comparison at the end of their careers will be based on titles and MVP
Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:12 pm to lsupride87
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I honestly think if MJ goes to the NBA at 18, his career is worse because of it
I agree with this.... His time at UNC was vital to what he was able to do in the NBA... He was held back a bit at INC... Smith ran things a certain way.. But when he got to the NBA he could let it all out....
Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:15 pm to lsupride87
Lebron better all around, can play more positions, faster, stronger, tougher, good character, etc.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:19 pm to Buckeye06
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LBJ from 18-21 got better coaching
Dean Smith > Paul Silas
Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:19 pm to bayou2003
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tougher,
Not sure about this... MJ was tough as nails.. He took some serious punishment against those Piston teams.......
Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:34 pm to Ray Penpillage
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LBJ from 18-21 got better coaching
Dean Smith > Paul Silas
Well one of them invented the 4 corner keep away game in college which doesn't exactly help a guy like MJ with his jumpshot
I was more saying LBJ was able to get more 1 on 1 time since he could devote his life to the sport. It wasn't saying this coach is better than this coach, more that he could hire a professional shooting coach for example for 3 hours a day, or fly out and visit a guru on the post up game
Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:45 pm to IgotKINGfisherSpeed
quote:If you don't understand the significance of this comparison, then you're a fool.
Stop it. LeBron is my guy, but can we stop with Jordan comparisons.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:46 pm to Buckeye06
MJ's first 13 years in NBA >>> Lebron's first 13 years in NBA.
6 to 3
31.5 to 27.2
Remaining stats:
rebounds MJ 6.3 Lebron 7.2
Assists MJ 5.4 Lebron 6.9
Steals MJ 2.5 Lebron 1.7
6 to 3
31.5 to 27.2
Remaining stats:
rebounds MJ 6.3 Lebron 7.2
Assists MJ 5.4 Lebron 6.9
Steals MJ 2.5 Lebron 1.7
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