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Lebron has the greatest career. Jordan was the best player.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 2/8/23 at 1:27 pm
Two things can be true at once.
It's hard to argue that Lebron's career isn't the greatest career in the NBA.
Having said that, had Jordan not taken years off to play baseball, perhaps this is a different conversation.
It's hard to argue that Lebron's career isn't the greatest career in the NBA.
Having said that, had Jordan not taken years off to play baseball, perhaps this is a different conversation.
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 1:28 pm to geauxkoo
Tiger is the best ever, Nicklaus had the best career
Posted on 2/8/23 at 1:29 pm to geauxkoo
Posted on 2/8/23 at 1:30 pm to geauxkoo
quote:
It's hard to argue that Lebron's career isn't the greatest career in the NBA.
I'll take Kareem's career over LeBron
6× NBA champion (1971, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988)
2× NBA Finals MVP (1971, 1985)
6× NBA Most Valuable Player (1971, 1972, 1974, 1976, 1977, 1980)
19× NBA All-Star (1970–1977, 1979–1989)
10× All-NBA First Team (1971–1974, 1976, 1977, 1980, 1981, 1984, 1986)
5× All-NBA Second Team (1970, 1978, 1979, 1983, 1985)
5× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1974, 1975, 1979–1981)
6× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1970, 1971, 1976–1978, 1984)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1970)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (1970)
2× NBA scoring champion (1971, 1972)
NBA rebounding champion (1976)
4× NBA blocks leader (1975, 1976, 1979, 1980)
NBA anniversary teams (35th, 50th, 75th)
LeBron career
4× NBA champion (2012, 2013, 2016, 2020)
4× NBA Finals MVP (2012, 2013, 2016, 2020)
4× NBA Most Valuable Player (2009, 2010, 2012, 2013)
19× NBA All-Star (2005–2023)
3× NBA All-Star Game MVP (2006, 2008, 2018)
13× All-NBA First Team (2006, 2008–2018, 2020)
3× All-NBA Second Team (2005, 2007, 2021)
2× All-NBA Third Team (2019, 2022)
5× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2009–2013)
NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2014)
NBA Rookie of the Year (2004)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2004)
NBA scoring champion (2008)
NBA assists leader (2020)
NBA all-time leading scorer
NBA 75th Anniversary Team
Posted on 2/8/23 at 1:31 pm to hg
What’s the award on bottom?
Posted on 2/8/23 at 1:32 pm to geauxkoo
The meltdown on this board after Lebron got the scoring record. 
Posted on 2/8/23 at 1:39 pm to Sun God
All-Defensive Team? Idk
This post was edited on 2/8/23 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:03 pm to geauxkoo
MJ is better
It’s really not close
It’s really not close
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:10 pm to geauxkoo
quote:
Two things can be true at once.
It's hard to argue that Lebron's career isn't the greatest career in the NBA.
Keep trying. There has to be some way to keep reconciling all these overwhelming stats as MJ loyalists try to deflect it away.
LeBron is just better. He's simply the best.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:10 pm to geauxkoo
I think Jordan is the best but if anything I would argue this the other way around. Jordan had a better career with all the titles and accolades but Lebron was the better player with him dragging those otherwise terrible Cavs teams to 4 straight finals.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:31 pm to red sox fan 13
Bill Russell had a pretty dang good career.
This post was edited on 2/8/23 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:34 pm to Sun God
quote:Maybe scoring champion.
What’s the award on bottom?
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:39 pm to sms151t
quote:foh
6× NBA champion
2× NBA Finals MVP
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:44 pm to red sox fan 13
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Lebron was the better player with him dragging those otherwise terrible Cavs teams to 4 straight finals.
Lol it's ridiculous how little credit people give Kyrie for 2016 when he was arguably the best player on the court at times. Also, the Cavs don't win if he doesn't hit the shot over Curry.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:53 pm to red sox fan 13
MJ loyalist always point to 6-0.
They fail to mention that MJ had more hall of fame teammates in every finals than his opponents. When he didn't he got swept in the first round.
Lebron only had more hall of fame teammates or projected hall of fame teammates in their prime once in 10 finals appearances. That was the championship with the Lakers vs. The Heat.
Lebron has actually three times beaten a team with more hall of famers in Oklahoma City, San Antonio, and Golden State.
Lost to Dallas, who had the same as the Heat, lost to San Antonio twice who had more, and Golden State three times who had more.
Championships are a team accomplishment. 6 out of 6 times MJ had the better team than his opponents. Take MJ off the Bulls and the opponents best player and the Bulls still win 6 titles
Do the same with Lebron and his teams don't win the four he has. No way Cleveland beats Golden State even if Lebron and Curry don't play.
They fail to mention that MJ had more hall of fame teammates in every finals than his opponents. When he didn't he got swept in the first round.
Lebron only had more hall of fame teammates or projected hall of fame teammates in their prime once in 10 finals appearances. That was the championship with the Lakers vs. The Heat.
Lebron has actually three times beaten a team with more hall of famers in Oklahoma City, San Antonio, and Golden State.
Lost to Dallas, who had the same as the Heat, lost to San Antonio twice who had more, and Golden State three times who had more.
Championships are a team accomplishment. 6 out of 6 times MJ had the better team than his opponents. Take MJ off the Bulls and the opponents best player and the Bulls still win 6 titles
Do the same with Lebron and his teams don't win the four he has. No way Cleveland beats Golden State even if Lebron and Curry don't play.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:56 pm to Pelicanus
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Take MJ off the Bulls and the opponents best player and the Bulls still win 6 titles
Wtf
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:57 pm to geauxkoo
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It's hard to argue that Lebron's career isn't the greatest career in the NBA.
Less rings, less MVPs
He did play longer though.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 3:03 pm to geauxkoo
quote:
It's hard to argue that Lebron's career isn't the greatest career in the NBA.
It is not by far.
Jeez, take the LeCock out of ya'lls mouths
Posted on 2/8/23 at 3:16 pm to Pelicanus
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They fail to mention that MJ had more hall of fame teammates in every finals than his opponents. When he didn't he got swept in the first round.
First just not true.
1991 Lakers had Divac, Worthy and Johnson. Mike had Pippen.
But to you would really take Pippen, Rodman and Kukoc over Stockton Malone?
This post was edited on 2/8/23 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 2/8/23 at 3:57 pm to Pelicanus
You had to realize when you got to Dallas that argument was shot to shite lol biggest upset of all time bro that dallas team had no businesses winning that series.
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