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re: Lebron comments on the Ahmaud Arbery shooting

Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:49 pm to
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
12631 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:49 pm to
Was Arbery just jogging or did he just attempt to rob someone? Big difference there and I agree that the father and son are idiots for going about it that way.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:50 pm to
You might want to educate yourself on race related homicide statistics.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27824 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:51 pm to
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Please don't tell me you think these hooligans shouldn't be arrested
I never said that. I'm not saying they didn't do anything wrong and that they're innocent.

I'm saying there isn't proof that this was a racially-motivated hate crime.

Maybe it was. But until more facts come out, it's irresponsible to push that narrative.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149374 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:54 pm to
Dont think people are saying that these murderers were hunting black people like lebron insinuated. But I find it very hard to believe these guys do the same thing to some random white guy. It wasnt explicitly racial motivated, but I find it hard to believe if it didn't play some kind of part, subconsciously
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42984 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:55 pm to
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I’ve never understood this comparison. It’s a completely different dynamic. Gang members shoot people because they’re gang members and bad people. It doesn’t need to be spoken out about because it’s something everyone can agree is a problem - gangs are an issue and no one thinks they are okay.

This is different. It’s an innocent black man dying because, well, he’s black. Racism is still very real and very alive and it does hurt the black community. These things need to be spoken out about because people (see this board) don’t believe racism is still an issue.


Here's the thing though, gangs kill thousands of people a year. A black person getting killed by a white person is minuscule in numbers compared to this. Why not focus on the bigger problem that we know exists.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27824 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:57 pm to
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Dont think people are saying that these murderers were hunting black people like lebron insinuated.
Don't hand me that foolishness. That's exactly what people are saying.

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But I find it very hard to believe these guys do the same thing to some random white guy.
This kind of stuff happens to White people too. The difference is that you never hear about it because the media can't play up the race angle. Remember that story out of Houston a year or two ago where the police barged into a home and killed the husband and wife? Turned out the husband and wife were innocent. They were white, so the story pretty much went away. If they were Black, it would have been front page of every newspaper and website, and people would have been protesting.

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It wasnt explicitly racial motivated, but I find it hard to believe if it didn't play some kind of part, subconsciously
You're injecting your own biases and prejudices to read into it. As of now, there isn't any evidence of it.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 7:00 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149374 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:59 pm to
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Don't hand me that foolishness. That's exactly what people are saying.
was talking about in this thread
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You're injecting your own biases and prejudices to read into it. As of now, there isn't any evidence of it.
and your biases arent doing anything here at all. Alright
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 7:00 pm
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:00 pm to
Look, I know this board does not like LeBron, but the Arbery shooting is an ugly incident.

I've posted a lot in the OT thread and I'll let those stand. Other than whether the hunted comment is hyperbolic, this isn't an offensive thing at all.

Even the hunted comment, that video shows the guys sitting and waiting on Arbery with guns and then drawing on him as he tries to jog around them. Hunting is not the worst metaphor for their behavior.

In the same way I'm not a fan of people who let their personal dislike of Trump get in the way when Trump says the right thing, there really isn't anything bad about what LeBron said here. The Arbery killing is ugly.
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
7112 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:00 pm to
screw prison. They need to be noosed up.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27824 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:01 pm to
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and your biases arent doing anything here at all. Alright
They're not. My position is based on facts and evidence. Yours is based on bias and assumption.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149374 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:01 pm to
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Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287943 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:02 pm to
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Because this has NEVER happened with the races reversed. Right?


Damn it only took one post

The mere fact that you cannot admit this is more likely to happen to a black person than a white person is exactly why shite like this still happens

You can’t even give an inch when it’s right in front of your face. And that is sad
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27824 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:04 pm to
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The mere fact that you cannot admit this is more likely to happen to a black person than a white person
Show me your evidence.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73015 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:04 pm to
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It’s an innocent black man dying because, well, he’s black. Racism is still very real and very alive and it does hurt the black community.
This is absolute fricking bullshite.

Whites killing blacks IS NOT currently some huge issue facing the black community.

Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:05 pm to
Wow he such a scumbag
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65954 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:07 pm to
LeBron is a racist, you didn’t know that? See he’s not directing these comments at law enforcement he’s directing them at a race of people, that’s who he hold responsible for this act. Not the individual morons who did this but all white people.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32647 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:08 pm to
Where’s the outrage about China’s treatment of Hong Kong Lebron? That’s right, it doesn’t make him money
Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
4120 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:08 pm to
Does he talk about black on black crime? If not, then he’s nothing more than a race baiter/race divider.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73015 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:09 pm to
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The mere fact that you cannot admit this is more likely to happen to a black person than a white person is exactly why shite like this still happens
This is not true.

A white person in America is more likely to be killed by a black person than a black person by a white person.

quote:


Overall, killings of blacks by whites and whites by blacks accounted for about 12 percent of the roughly 6,000 homicides last year in which police had information about the race of both victim and killer – a slight increase from around 11 percent in 2014. About 15.8 percent of white victims were killed by blacks last year, and 8.6 percent of black victims were killed by whites.
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10526 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:09 pm to
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Whites killing blacks IS NOT currently some huge issue facing the black community.


The actual killing itself, no it isn’t a huge issue.

The underlying racism that causes these killings, however small in raw numbers they may be, is absolutely an issue regardless of if the white southern TD board wants to admit it.

This thread is a prime example. People can’t help but jump in here and say “look at this! Look at that! Why do we need to focus on racism if blacks also kill blacks!”
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