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re: le Tour '25: Tour de France: FIN We’re All Stars Now In the Dope Show POGGY WINS #4
Posted on 7/7/25 at 9:29 am to DownSouthJukin
Posted on 7/7/25 at 9:29 am to DownSouthJukin
Nasty crash in the intermediate sprint probably ends Philipsen's tour
Posted on 7/7/25 at 9:31 am to Ingeniero
That was nasty. It was supposed to be a relatively calm day too. What a bummer
Posted on 7/7/25 at 9:48 am to Ingeniero
Absolute bummer. He was certainly going to do well this year, shame his tour ends in day 3
Posted on 7/7/25 at 9:53 am to PikesPeak
Green Jersey is wide open now. Milan and Merlier are by far the best flat sprinters, but Bini and Groves are much better climbers and Groves will be the focus with MVDP leading him out.
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 9:54 am
Posted on 7/7/25 at 10:35 am to crazyLSUstudent
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If tadej is on the gas so is everyone else. He’s a once in 50 year rider
In the last 50 years we’ve had a record 7 time winner, two of the four total 5 time winners, and a 4 time winner.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 10:52 am to OhioLSUfan
several crashes in the last 3 km.
Photo finish. Merlier wins it by a fraction of an inch
Photo finish. Merlier wins it by a fraction of an inch
Posted on 7/7/25 at 12:41 pm to OhioLSUfan
Yeah and he’s better than 3 of the 4 by a wide margin and his only comp is Eddy. And even then Eddy was competing against a peloton that was nowhere near as professional as today’s peloton is.
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 7/7/25 at 12:46 pm to crazyLSUstudent
These sprint points and finishes are like a demolition derby when everyone is all fired up. Chaos…like a monkey in a sidecar.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:50 pm to Drank
I missed the start. Any Americans to keep an eye on? Anyone capable of winning a stage?
Posted on 7/7/25 at 2:05 pm to PhilipMarlowe
Matteo Jorgenson has been up front in all his mullet and moustache glory.
He currently sits in 5th in the GC at +10s
Powell is also in the top 15. And Kuss in the 30's.
All this will obviously change as the mountain and hilly stages begin.
Either way it's nice having a core group of US riders to cheer for over the last half decade, including Kuss' Vuelta title a couple of years ago
He currently sits in 5th in the GC at +10s
Powell is also in the top 15. And Kuss in the 30's.
All this will obviously change as the mountain and hilly stages begin.
Either way it's nice having a core group of US riders to cheer for over the last half decade, including Kuss' Vuelta title a couple of years ago
Posted on 7/7/25 at 2:35 pm to Drank
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in all his mullet and moustache glory.
That would be Quinn Simmons on Lidl Trek. US road champion. Wearing the stars and stripes. He’s been pulling long days for the team.
Here he is at TD Suisse this year:
Jorgensen is on Visma-Lease a Bike. He’s sitting at #5 in the GC after today.
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 7/7/25 at 2:53 pm to DownSouthJukin
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That would be Quinn Simmons on Lidl Trek
Ah touché. I stand corrected. Thanks.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 3:17 pm to crazyLSUstudent
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Yeah and he’s better than 3 of the 4 by a wide margin and his only comp is Eddy. And even then Eddy was competing against a peloton that was nowhere near as professional as today’s peloton is.
The Cannibal was just different. I am not very old-school biased, but if Eddie had come up in the modern professional cycling world with its training and chemistry, I think he would have been untouchable in the GTs. He likely wouldn't have been allowed to be the supreme all-rounder he was, but I think he would have won all the GTs in a year two, if not three times. His classics/monuments/sprinting numbers would be down, but I think his GT numbers would have been even more impressive.
I would love to be able to see a TdF with a modern trained Eddie, Pog and Lance all with equally strong teams and with a brutally hard course and see who could prevail.
Hate to see Jasper out. The peloton doesn't look nervous early in this tour; they look angry. I suppose it makes sense as the GC teams have been serious from the gun and smaller teams start to realize ink for their sponsers is going to be hard to come by.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 8:14 pm to PikesPeak
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Absolute bummer. He was certainly going to do well this year, shame his tour ends in day 3
DId the rider on his right have his foot come off the pedal and veer in to him? looking at stills.
How does your foot come off the pedal when clicked in? they were moving in a straight line and no drama/stress.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 8:21 pm to Lakeboy7
It looked like Coquard started to sprint and collided with the Intermarche rider and reacted or got pushed over into Philipsen. Coquard came unclipped or unclipped in the process.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 8:29 pm to DownSouthJukin
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Coquard came unclipped or unclipped in the process.
Yeah just saw a better video angle.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 9:25 pm to Obtuse1
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The Cannibal was just different
If the Cannibal was truly different he would be competitive with Pog across the classics and GTs, and I don’t think modern GT design is conducive to dominance from Merckx like it does for Pog. Short tts, shorter stages, and Merckx body size would be a large hindrance
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 7/7/25 at 9:59 pm to crazyLSUstudent
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If the Cannibal was truly different he would be competitive with Pog across the classics and GTs,
IMO a modern grown and developed Eddie would destroy Pogacar in most one-day races, but my point was a modern Eddie wouldn't have been allowed to race as many races if he was a triple threat to the GTs like I think he would be. I also think a modern Eddie would have been 10-12 pounds lighter and have a much higher power to weight ratio and FTP than classic Eddie. Everyone talks about them in the same sentence now, even Merckx himself, but I think Tadej needs a lot more added to his palmarès before I will call them equal.
One thing not to forget is a modern Eddie would have had his leg length discrepancy diagnosed at the very beginning of his career and bikes built and fitted to account for this. That change alone would have made him more formidable than he already was, even before modern training and chemistry.
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