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re: Larry Johnson has to go too for his racist comments
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:05 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:05 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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The funniest thing about this whole concept is that most non American blacks absolutely hate American blacks and think they are lazy fricks. How do I know this? I work with a Jamaican black and another black from a small Island down there that I can't remember the name of. Both have told me that American blacks are spoiled babies and need to grow up.
So the Jamaican black and the other black from the small island now represent all black people?
This post was edited on 4/28/14 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:05 pm to HeadCoach
Fans will never boycott.....it wont happen. Its all talk because people want to think its a movie.
And previous post explains the financial thing will pass like always. Someone will take the spot of sponsors who wont go back.
And just becaude its an unpopular opinion your way of life should not be effected by illegal activity esp. When it hasnt effected mJority of people wantimg his team takem away
And previous post explains the financial thing will pass like always. Someone will take the spot of sponsors who wont go back.
And just becaude its an unpopular opinion your way of life should not be effected by illegal activity esp. When it hasnt effected mJority of people wantimg his team takem away
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:06 pm to Keys Open Doors
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A) The vast majority of white billionaires don't invest in pro basketball or any other sport.
B) The people who do invest in pro basketball generally seem to be fans of the sport. I know Mark Cuban, Vivek Ranadive (who isn't white), Stan Kronke, Mikhail Prokerov, and the Seattle Hedge Fund guy who is trying to get a team are all big fans of the sport. These are all people who are recent owners as well.
Obviously i have no idea if Nigerian and Angolan billionaires love basketball on a case-by-case basis. But if their tastes are anything like their less wealthy countrymen, they are much more likely to follow soccer than anything else. Basketball is not really a big deal over there.
Also, there is no reason to assume kinship between Africans and black Americans. Those ties didn't even exist all that much in 19th century and they're probably far flimsier today.
I'm not assuming kinship. You're projecting. I'm assuming rich people like to become richer. A basketball league featuring the best basketball players in the world would be a profitable enterprise.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:07 pm to ohiovol
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So the the Jamaican black and the other black from the small island now represent all black people?
I mean, if we're going to go that route, what about non-American whites who think caucasian Americans are fat lazy bastards?
Ponchy is the one who thinks AAs "are spoiled babies and need to grow up," and hid behind this little convenient anecdote to say so
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:07 pm to Shaft Williams
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I'm not assuming kinship. You're projecting. I'm assuming rich people like to become richer. A basketball league featuring the best basketball players in the world would be a profitable enterprise.
What's stopping them?
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:08 pm to diddydirtyAubie
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On Saturday night, Johnson tweeted: “Black people your Focusing on the wrong thing. We should be focusing on having our own, Own team own League! To For Self!!’’
I would support this league if Don King is the commissioner.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:11 pm to ohiovol
Great question. The NBA is open to foreign ownership now, at least far more than in the past. And several teams have been sold in recent years. I don't think a single black investor was interested, except in the Jordan/Robert Johnson Bobcats transfer (unless we include things like Jay-Z owning 1/15th of 1 percent of the Nets and Nelly's similar vanity ownership claim in Charlotte).
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:13 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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I mean, if we're going to go that route, what about non-American whites who think caucasian Americans are fat lazy bastards?
Sooo, all of Europe?
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Ponchy is the one who thinks AAs "are spoiled babies and need to grow up," and hid behind this little convenient anecdote to say so
Not sure what led you to this conclusion. I'll chip in that the dozen or so Haitians and Jamaicans I have worked with all shared this opinion.
They're wrong though, it isn't the majority of African Americans who are "spoiled babies and need to grow up".
It's the majority of Americans who are.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:16 pm to Keys Open Doors
The people that try to defend Sterling are just terrible. Larry Johnson is an a-hole, too. I'm black and I'm proud. I decry Larry Johnson's comments, but one racist arse doesn't excuse another
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:19 pm to WaltTeevens
Sterling is a terrible human being who should have been suspended by David Stern four years ago for his ridiculous treatment of tenants in LA county.
Johnson is just a dumb guy who doesn't think before he speaks.
Johnson is just a dumb guy who doesn't think before he speaks.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:23 pm to Keys Open Doors
You know what, he should start his own league.
Call it the BNBA and see if they can get revenue and tv deals from anyone other than BET.
Have a white entertainment television and the country would go apeshite.
There's subtle racism from blacks that there are double standards like no other. They can use the race card in their favor without it being racist, but the second a non-black person does something of equivalent nature the damn country goes on fire.
Call it the BNBA and see if they can get revenue and tv deals from anyone other than BET.
Have a white entertainment television and the country would go apeshite.
There's subtle racism from blacks that there are double standards like no other. They can use the race card in their favor without it being racist, but the second a non-black person does something of equivalent nature the damn country goes on fire.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:26 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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But by all means, continue to defend DS and imply that folks should turn a blind eye to this
Not immediately jumping up and down and demanding punishment be handed down for an opionon is far from a blind eye. I think people publicly disagreeing with him is perfectly acceptable. What I have a problem with is having an opinion be a reason you have a job/property/company taken from you. I have a problem with people wanting him to be suspended for a year or any punishment for his opinion. As I stated earlier if he were to go on a NBA broadcast and out of nowhere start spreading his opinion i'm fine with a league punishment. That is their airwaves and he is pushing a whole group of people on their time/air waves.
But that didn't happen. She illegally recorded a conversation (i'm sure something will be filed on this sooner than later in court if it doesn't coincide with case already going on) and that is being used for punishment. He didn't post it on a FB, he didn't write it in a journal and left out...it's illegal.
Whats not illegal? Opinions....and we have got into a habit in this country if we dont like your opinion we need you punished. And it's a terrible trend that everyone should be against. You have to defend people being able to have private opionons because it will eventually get you. At some point in all of our lives we will be impacted by a family member or ourselves having an unpopular opinion. Hopefully it doesn't effect our lively hood . But we shouldn't have to live in fear that someone will do something illegal and us not break a law, yet we still are the ones who pay for it
I get in debates on here all the time when I defend people not getting fired for a joke/opinion. it always gets labeled that i'm defending the persons statement. I'm just defending not having to live in constant fear or todays pitch fork society. I think allowing people to have opinion teaches and changes thoughts a lot more than forced thinking and forced apologies.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:26 pm to htran90
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Call it the BNBA and see if they can get revenue and tv deals from anyone other than BET.
I'm black and I don't even watch BET.
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Have a white entertainment television and the country would go apeshite.
Mainstream television IS white entertainment television. Nothing wrong with that either--y'all are the majority.
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There's subtle racism from blacks that there are double standards like no other. They can use the race card in their favor without it being racist, but the second a non-black person does something of equivalent nature the damn country goes on fire.
bullshite. You wanna say the N word? Say it, be my guest. Don't come crying when there are consequences.
There is no subtle reverse racism going on for black people to have a huge problem with Sterling's remarks. To suggest so is asinine.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:30 pm to fightingtiger2335
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Not immediately jumping up and down and demanding punishment be handed down for an opionon is far from a blind eye.
Implying nothing of note should happen is turning a blind eye.
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I think people publicly disagreeing with him is perfectly acceptable.
That's an acceptable start.
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What I have a problem with is having an opinion be a reason you have a job/property/company taken from you.
Owning an NBA franchise is a privilege. A privilege that he has proven time and again he does not deserve to have based upon his views.
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She illegally recorded a conversation
This is not a trial. Not illegal. And she's obviously a gold digger. Beside the point. Doesn't absolve him for spewing his bigotry.
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Whats not illegal? Opinions....and we have got into a habit in this country if we dont like your opinion we need you punished.
So you think there should be no negative repercussions for his "opinion" that he doesn't like black people?
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I get in debates on here all the time when I defend people not getting fired for a joke/opinion. it always gets labeled that i'm defending the persons statement. I'm just defending not having to live in constant fear or todays pitch fork society.
If you say racist shite like this, you deserve to get your bigoted arse pitchforked.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:30 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Mainstream television IS white entertainment television. Nothing wrong with that either--y'all are the majority.
Exactly. What the frick would be on WET?
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:32 pm to htran90
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Larry Johnson has to go too for his racist comments You know what, he should start his own league. Call it the BNBA and see if they can get revenue and tv deals from anyone other than BET. Have a white entertainment television and the country would go apeshite. There's subtle racism from blacks that there are double standards like no other. They can use the race card in their favor without it being racist, but the second a non-black person does something of equivalent nature the damn country goes on fire.
frick you. My grandma moved to ohio from Jamaica in the twenties. As a black woman, she experienced denial of things you and I take for granted. Your family May or may not have had hardships, but my family was educated And hard working! and still had to beg at times for just a fair shake. We overcame. frick you.
This post was edited on 4/28/14 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:44 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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This is not a trial. Not illegal. And she's obviously a gold digger. Beside the point. Doesn't absolve him for spewing his bigotry.
It surely is. I'm not sure why you think in California if its not a lawsuit it's fine. What she did was illegal.
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Owning an NBA franchise is a privilege. A privilege that he has proven time and again he does not deserve to have based upon his views.
He has never publicly stated his views. As far as it seems his views haven't stopped him from treating all players the same and I don't know of any problems or lack or minorities in the front office. His personal views have not effected the NBA franchise so they should not be intertwined.
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Implying nothing of note should happen is turning a blind eye.
Just not true. This is where I said it's childish thinking. Only a child would think if I can't see a mean man punished or Billy put in the corner then it means everything is ok.
Publicly talking about it, publicly embarrassing him, making him come face to face with such an outdated ignorant a-hole opinion can bring upon actual change. But we would rather just try to punish him (for doing nothing illegal btw) and would rather a forced apology, a forced cultural diversity class then actual change that can be brought on by real discussion. Not childish "He mean punish him daddy".
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So you think there should be no negative repercussions for his "opinion" that he doesn't like black people?
You think a punishment should be handed down from an authority figure because we want our justice and we want it now. I mean we have to demand an apology from someone next week so we need this story wrapped up in a nice bow by the weekend.
If sponsors choose to not do business with him, players decide they will not sign with LA, fans stop buying tickets...that's all punishment. every single part of it is. That is negative repercussions that came naturally and over time. Maybe people will go back maybe they wouldn't...but let people decide that..why do we need to have an authority figure punish someone for us? Because we are too lazy and not effected enough to actually do it ourselves because lets face it, if its game 7 at home, we are going, morals and values can wait for offseason, or we can just have a man pass down a punishment for us so we feel like we fixed the world
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If you say racist shite like this, you deserve to get your bigoted arse pitchforked.
You shouldn't be punished for an having an unpopular opinion only found out by illegal activity.
Then again I like discussion because I learn alot more that way rather than censorship and forced apology/group think
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:46 pm to fightingtiger2335
Since when is being fair and loving to all humans groupthink? I wish it was groupthink.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:48 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Mainstream television IS white entertainment television. Nothing wrong with that either--y'all are the majority.
Point of emphasis meaning if there was a channel called WET. Not the point that media caters to majority white. The second someone puts white before something it goes TOTALLY out of control.
There is a double standard. Look at ANY historically black university. They emphasis it, ALL the time. HBCU or HBU. If you called harvard HWU there would be a shite TON of consequences. Why the frick does it matter if its a HBU/HBCU, can't we just call it a fricking good university?
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bullshite. You wanna say the N word? Say it, be my guest. Don't come crying when there are consequences.
There is no subtle reverse racism going on for black people to have a huge problem with Sterling's remarks. To suggest so is asinine.
No, the subtle racism I'm talking about isn't even the use of the N-word. But why should anyone use it? It's a fricking derogatory term either way you use it.
I get called chink, ching chong, and all that bullshite, but I ignore it. I guarandamntee you if I said the N-word it'd be fricking hell.
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frick you. My grandma moved to ohio from Jamaica in the twenties. As a black woman, she experienced denial of things you and I take for granted. Your family May or may not have had hardships, but my family was educated And hard working! and still had to beg at times for just a fair shake. We overcame. frick you.
You know what, frick you too. My parents moved to New Orleans from a communist country, experience and denied jobs as well. Things I take for granted at times because my life wasn't a shite hole. My family weren't educated past high school, my mom is a house cleaner and my dad owned a tiny vessel to shrimp. My parents got denied handouts all the time when they came to America and had to work multiple jobs to take care of their famiily. My grandparents had to babysit me from 8am til 8pm everyday until I was 4 when I went to pre-school. So your asinine arse comment isn't needed either.
How about this for you? You guys get affirmative action, and a lot of black I know hate it because it sends your race back 50 years. It gives you guys a pass into graduate schools for those who don't deserve it and take away spots for those students that worked their tails off, but get denied because their application pool of similar race scored just as high if not higher than them.
This post was edited on 4/28/14 at 8:54 pm
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