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re: Lance Armstrong was/is a fricking a-hole

Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:42 pm to
Massive douche
Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
15088 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:47 pm to
You do realize that is the only angle Lance had left to play, right?

He knows some people will give him an ounce of respect for at least telling it like it is.

Still a trash human being.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 6:29 pm to
They should have spent a little more time actually going into detail about how they cheated for the avg person that doesn’t understand blood doping
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
37834 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 6:34 pm to
If you haven't read Tyler Hamilton's book "The Secret Race" it's really fantastic and goes into the details on how the doping tactics changed as they couldn't just pump full of EPO.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 6:37 pm to
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I underlined, in red, every sub 100 mile stage from the most recent 2019 tour de france. You'll see more than 1 non time trial stage under 60 miles



Stages 19 and 20 were shortened due to landslides and hail during the middle of stage. Those were supposed to be big, long, brutal mountain stages.

The trend is towards some shorter mountain stages generally because there tends to be more attacking early and is more exciting.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 6:54 pm to
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And only 15 of 21 stages go over 70 miles fyi.


All the shorter stages are TTs, brutal climbing stages or the loaf into Paris. The TTs are hell for GC contenders the last crank of the pedal over the line has to be the last one you have in you.

When you watch the current grand tours where there is far less doping they tend to be boring because the recovery times are too long to be able to go hard every day. The peloton looks like the autobus most days. The points classification is fairly exciting but the GS classification has been boring.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 6:57 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 6:55 pm to
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Cycling shouldn’t look a gift horse in the mouth. The only time Americans have given a rat’s arse about the Tour is when Lance Armstrong was dominating.


FIFY, it has always been a HUGE spectator sport outside the US.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
24310 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 8:04 pm to
If I was laying on a cancer bed with my friends in the room and I admitted to a DOCTOR that I had used and those friends had heard because I had trusted them in that incredibly vulnerable situation and then they went under oath to disclose that....I’d want to destroy those frickers.
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:03 pm to
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You clearly don’t grasp the difficulty of winning 1 Tour de France, while Lance proceed to win 7 in a row.

Lol. He doped! It gives extra strength, endurance and abilities. Just cause he put in extra work doesn’t justify winning.
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:06 pm to
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Lance was competing on a level playing field. Everyone was using the same stuff, and he just won more with it.

He did drugs for an advantage. Not comparable to MJ.
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:07 pm to
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Yeah, the worst part is how viciously he went after people that were rightfully calling him out on cheating including lawsuits, knowing that they were right about him.

The part his glorifiers seem not to understand.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:18 pm to
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He did drugs for an advantage.


Everyone in the Tour De France did drugs. How is it an advantage if you do what all your competitors are doing?
Posted by Stiles
Member since Sep 2017
3452 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:31 pm to
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He is dropping truth bombs

Why start now?
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:44 pm to
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How is it an advantage if you do what all your competitors are doing?

I swear y’all act like your understanding hasn’t developed yet
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68360 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:07 am to
He was a dick. But he raised hundreds of millions for cancer research, he seems like a decent dad and he only cheated at a euro dominated pussy sport. He’s good in my book now that he seems humbled.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
18142 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 9:13 am to
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nd then they went under oath to disclose that....I’d want to destroy those frickers.


You'd want to destroy people for not perjuring themselves under oath? Really?

Floyd is obviously a snitch tool but the rest of them didn't deserve the treatment they received by any means.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
24310 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:09 am to
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You'd want to destroy people for not perjuring themselves under oath? Really?



Yes.

I let you stay in the room with me while i disclosed things to a doctor in hopes that the knowledge might help him help me not die. And then you fricking used that against me.

You are my enemy now. And i wouldnt feel bad about coming at you. Just dont say you heard that. Say it was all a blur and you dont remember. Say you stepped out for coffee. Say it was all emotional and you cant really remember as you arent a doctor and its all greek to you. Say anything else, you disloyal scumbags.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
18142 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:37 pm to
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Say anything else, you disloyal scumbags.


Coming from the guy cheating and using cancer as a crutch to defend and lie about his cheating?

how do you not see an issue with this?

They all covered it up for a VERY long time. Andreu's never offered any information to the media prior to the documents getting eventually leaked. And then they only stood by their statements as truth.

Not sure how you find issue in them coming clean under oath to not perjure themselves and potentially go to jail. They didn't seek anyone out ala Landis and Hamilton, I think you're confusing them.

You'd expect people to go to jail for you while you were lying and defrauding people? You realize he's admitted to that right?

This isn't even worth arguing about honestly.
This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 1:38 pm
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
5857 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 3:27 pm to
Football is a pussy sport compared to cycling
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 3:28 pm to
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Football is a pussy sport compared to cycling


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