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re: Kyler Murray now threatening to sit out if the Cardinals don’t extend his contract.

Posted on 4/15/22 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 4/15/22 at 2:43 pm to
Colt McCoy is ready!

This is why QBs still have all the leverage in the world.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/15/22 at 2:44 pm to
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Seems like he has it in his head that baseball would be an easy and profitable fallback for him. Really curious what a deal would look like for someone his age who hasn’t played professionally for several year


Whatever offer he could get in baseball wouldn’t be close to what he would make on his current deal.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 4/15/22 at 2:50 pm to
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Been making this argument for a while now. Draft QBs all the time even if you have a young one.

Unless you get the apex (Mahomes, Watson, Allen, etc.) Just recycle them.


There is a direct correlation between QB salaries and Super Bowl winners whether anyone wants to admit it or not. As in, teams that pay QBs huge money aren't winning Super Bowls. I'm amazed that GMs haven't figured this out yet.
This post was edited on 4/15/22 at 3:00 pm
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/15/22 at 2:52 pm to
Murray is good, but I’m not making him the newest highest-paid QB in the NFL, which is surely what he expects from his next contract.
Posted by Winstonscrabfingers
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 4/15/22 at 2:56 pm to
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There is a direct correlation between QB salaries and Super Bowl winners whether anyone wants to admit it or not. As in, teams that pay QBs huge money aren't winning Supee Bowls. I'm amazed that GMs haven't figured this out yet.


Same reason some teams are using analytics to try to win a game. This isn't fantasy football. Analytics don't work.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 4/15/22 at 3:03 pm to
Dedicating 25% of your salary cap to one player is a horribly inefficient use of resources. The biggest reason New England was so good for so long that no one ever talks about is that Brady never reset the market on QB contracts. He took less so they could keep the roster stocked. I'm surprised other QBs don't do this.

I also believe there's a chance that New England made it up to him by paying him some under the table too, but that's for another thread.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 4/15/22 at 3:08 pm to
Yes. I screamed about this the last few years with dak. I knew if we extended him that any chance of winning a super bowl was shot.

Now if Dak demanded less cash, then hell yeah, sign the man up, but that never happens in these situations. Agents and players push to get every dollars and will complain about how the team lacks weapons in a couple of years and demand a trade or some shite.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/15/22 at 3:16 pm to
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Sell to the highest bidder and let them guarantee Murray $45M a year. That's the fastest way to guarantee your team won't win a Super Bowl for the foreseeable future.



Yea they should let him go to a division rival if they really dont believe he's worth it. Then hey can saddle that team with him for years into the future
Posted by Crow Pie
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/15/22 at 3:27 pm to
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Kyler Murray now threatening to sit out if the Cardinals don’t extend his contract.
"For the love of the game*"


*and by game, I mean cash.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/15/22 at 3:28 pm to
Pre Madonna
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6371 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 3:36 pm to
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know because it’s already happened to Dallas and is happening in KC


Since when did they start hosting the AFC championship in round one?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/15/22 at 3:39 pm to
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As in, teams that pay QBs huge money aren't winning Super Bowls. I'm amazed that GMs haven't figured this out yet.



GM's have figured out teams with shitty QB's don't win SB's either.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 4/15/22 at 3:52 pm to
I'd rather have a shitty QB on a cheap deal than a decent QB making $35M+/year.

Over the next five years, I'll set the O/U on Browns number of total playoff games at 3.5 and playoff wins at 1.5. I'd take the under on both. That Watson contract is going to cripple their roster.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 4/15/22 at 4:13 pm to
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Since when did they start hosting the AFC championship in round one?


You’ve seen it start with shipping Hill and not resigning Mathieu. It will continue to deplete their roster, but probably not as bad as Dak’s contract will. I believe Mahomes is somewhat team friendly(er) in terms of cap hit. And by that I mean he still bogs the cap down, but I believe his cap hit is less than $30 mil this year. It also rises the next few years, peaks and then the hit decreases on the back end substantially.
This post was edited on 4/15/22 at 4:15 pm
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 4/15/22 at 4:27 pm to
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He took less so they could keep the roster stocked. I'm surprised other QBs don't do this


I can see Burrow doing this
Posted by saintsfan22
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 4/15/22 at 4:52 pm to
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There is a direct correlation between QB salaries and Super Bowl winners whether anyone wants to admit it or not. As in, teams that pay QBs huge money aren't winning Super Bowls. I'm amazed that GMs haven't figured this out yet.


Having a good QB making a bunch of money and losing in the divisional round doesn't get you fired. Letting a good qb go and replacing him with a bad one definitely will.
Posted by CJD4LSU
Ray-Vegas, La
Member since Sep 2006
3504 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 4:59 pm to
Dude is such a gaping vagina. He's not even that good.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71578 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 5:00 pm to
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. The biggest reason New England was so good for so long that no one ever talks about is that Brady never reset the market on QB contracts. He took less so they could keep the roster stocked. I'm surprised other QBs don't do this.

What we need to find is a QB capable of winning 7 titles, can play until he's 45, and is married to a supermodel that makes more him. Get on it, scouts!
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
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Posted on 4/15/22 at 5:10 pm to
This is almost a big a joke as him measuring 5’10 at the combine. Someone got rich reporting that lie as official.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 4/15/22 at 5:13 pm to
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What we need to find is a QB capable of winning 7 titles, can play until he's 45, and is married to a supermodel that makes more him. Get on it, scouts!


The winning formula is out there. Brady is the only one who was willing to help his team by taking significantly less money. I'm sure he more than made up for it with endorsements, and because he was willing to give back a little to New England, they rewarded him by surrounding him with loaded rosters.

Now he has still made more money than he could spend in 3 lifetimes AND his teams were always great.
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