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re: Kurt Warner - Best 4 game stretch in NFL history?
Posted on 12/6/09 at 11:31 pm to FootballNostradamus
Posted on 12/6/09 at 11:31 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Many people could be a Hall of Famer with guys like Isaac Bruce, Tory Holt, Marshal Faulk, Larry Fitzgerald and Anquon Boldin all in their primes.
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Posted on 12/6/09 at 11:34 pm to Lester Earl
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how many HOFers, in the middle of their prime, couldnt hold down a starting job on teams with shitty QB's???
So it's Warner's fault that his vastly superior play in NY than Manning wouldn't let him keep the job all season?
Also, a not 100% Warner lst his job to Bulger. Bulger was FAR from shitty his first few years. He made multiple pro bowls and as a 6th rounder was a much cheaper option for a small market team.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 11:37 pm to el tigre
Dude is just sick...when he is given time in the pocket, he is virtually unstoppable.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 11:38 pm to el tigre
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So it's Warner's fault that his vastly superior play in NY than Manning wouldn't let him keep the job all season?
any surefire HOF doesnt lose their job to some 22 year old rookie...IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR PRIME!!!
frick, obviously the coaches saw something....
and a guy that couldnt beat out Marc Bulger who couldnt even cut it with the Saints.....come off 2-3 really good seasons with the Rams????? a Super Bowl at that???
yeah, i guess the coaches just hated him. Prob thought his wife was a bull dyke so they felt obligated not to play him. Poor Kurt....and that prob just went on for 5 years just cause they didnt see the HOF in him....right...one of the most overrated QB's of the last 20 years right here, is what we have
Posted on 12/6/09 at 11:39 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Many people could be a Hall of Famer with guys like Kobe Bryant, Anfernee Hardaway, Dwayne Wade, Amare Stoudemire, Steve Nash and Lebron James all in their primes.
Signed,
Shaq
This post was edited on 12/6/09 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 12/6/09 at 11:40 pm to Lester Earl
not to discredit warner, but a lot of QB's could be lights out playing for the cardinals right now.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 11:41 pm to lsu xman
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not to discredit warner, but a lot of QB's could be lights out playing for the cardinals right now.
as I have already stated in this thread, Matt Leinart disagrees
Posted on 12/6/09 at 11:42 pm to SPEEDY
well thats ML.
plug in any top10 QB, and the cardinals offense wouldnt miss a beat.
plug in any top10 QB, and the cardinals offense wouldnt miss a beat.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 11:47 pm to Lester Earl
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any surefire HOF doesnt lose their job to some 22 year old rookie...IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR PRIME!!!
a 33 year old coming off 2 years of injuries could absolutely lose his job to the face of the franchise rookie no matter how badly he outplays the rookie....as seen in this case. That's not an indictment on warner's play, but a commentary on his particular situation.
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.and that prob just went on for 5 years just cause they didnt see the HOF in him....right..
yes, but his injuries did play a part. just as he prob should have been drafted, teams can make mistakes.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 11:47 pm to lsu xman
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plug in any top10 QB
Brees
Manning
Brady
Favre
Rodgers
Rivers
Roethlisberger
Palmer
McNabb
Schuab
Warner
Hmm, you do realize that every person listed on that list, if healthy for an entire career, has a shot at the HOF, so I'm not seeing your point.
That fact is, had Warner come into the league at 21 and played at the same clip he is playing now, he would be in the discussion for one of the best QB's of all time.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 11:48 pm to Lester Earl
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any surefire HOF doesnt lose their job to some 22 year old rookie...IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR PRIME!!!
So I guess you're saying Drew Bledsoe sucked.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 11:49 pm to lsu xman
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plug in any top10 QB, and the cardinals offense wouldnt miss a beat.
have you seen his accuracy when he gets time? there are not 10 qbs in the NFL that can make those throws.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 11:50 pm to el tigre
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have you seen his accuracy when he gets time? there are not 10 qbs in the NFL that can make those throws.
Actually, there is only one other QB all time that has his accuracy numbers.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 11:51 pm to theunknownknight
Drew Bledsoe was really fricking overrated, yes.
Marc Bulger didnt win shite after he took over.
and it took Eli like 4-5 years before he won
Tom Brady won THAT YEAR
Marc Bulger didnt win shite after he took over.
and it took Eli like 4-5 years before he won
Tom Brady won THAT YEAR
Posted on 12/6/09 at 11:53 pm to Lester Earl
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New England's Defense won THAT YEAR
Brady went like 8 or 9 games without throwing a TD his first season.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 11:54 pm to Lester Earl
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Marc Bulger didnt win shite after he took over.
they went 12-4 and won their division his first full year as a starter.
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and it took Eli like 4-5 years before he won
are you just refusing to acknowledge the uniqueness of the pressure to play Eli placed on the NYG?
This post was edited on 12/6/09 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 12/6/09 at 11:55 pm to Lester Earl
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Drew Bledsoe was really overrated, yes.
You can't be REALLY overrated when you are on pace to throw 60,000 yards in your career before going down with injury.
He still finished with almost 45,000 yards passing.
This post was edited on 12/6/09 at 11:57 pm
Posted on 12/6/09 at 11:59 pm to Lester Earl
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Drew Bledsoe was really fricking overrated, yes.
wtf?
a 4-time pro-bowler that is top 10-15 all time in yards, completions and TDs yet is never mentioned as an all time great is OVERrated?
Posted on 12/6/09 at 11:59 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Many people could be a Hall of Famer with guys like Isaac Bruce, Tory Holt, Marshal Faulk, Larry Fitzgerald and Anquon Boldin all in their primes.
Manning has had Harrison, Wayne, and Clark. No one gives him shite about it.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 12:00 am to theunknownknight
Bledsoe just played in an offense than threw the ball a ton. he doesnt have not one year in which he had a QB rating of better than 90.
sure he threw for 4500+yds for New England in one season, but his TD/INT ratio was 25td/27int.
sure he threw for 4500+yds for New England in one season, but his TD/INT ratio was 25td/27int.
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