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re: Josh Allen & Lamar J. have played their final regular season games, Who wins the NFL MVP?
Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:17 pm to RelicBatches86
Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:17 pm to RelicBatches86
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Question to Allen voters: if Lamar had 0 MVPs in an alternate world, would Allen still be the favorite against Lamar's historic season? Of course not.
Hard disagree.
Compare points per drive for their offenses.
Lamar is joined by 4 other pro bowlers on offense
Josh is joined by 1 other
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:19 pm to RelicBatches86
So even the mvp voting is rigged???
Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:22 pm to Kansas City King
Sam Darnold, America’s quarterback
Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:31 pm to Kansas City King
Frick the stats
JA is playing with a lackluster cast around him and is absolutely carrying them
It’s JA if it is truly gonna be called “most valuable player”
JA is playing with a lackluster cast around him and is absolutely carrying them
It’s JA if it is truly gonna be called “most valuable player”
Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:43 pm to Kansas City King
Give it to Jamarr Chase. Only fourth ever triple crown.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:47 pm to RelicBatches86
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if Lamar had 0 MVPs in an alternate world, would Allen still be the favorite against Lamar's historic season? Of course not.
Why did Lamar win his second MVP?
Posted on 1/4/25 at 10:11 pm to Kansas City King
You can't win mvp if you're objectively 3rd best at your position.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 10:18 pm to whatiknowsofar
LJ deserves it but Vegas got Josh Allen winning.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 10:37 pm to Locoguan0
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Give it to Jamarr Chase
Totally deserves a mention. So does Barkley.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 11:14 pm to Kansas City King
Them two and Burrow are all having a hell of a season carrying their offenses.
Think I’d have to lean towards Burrow, but all three have really balled out and been great this season.
Think I’d have to lean towards Burrow, but all three have really balled out and been great this season.
This post was edited on 1/4/25 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 1/4/25 at 11:17 pm to RelicBatches86
MVP my vote is for Jared Goff if I vote. I don’t believe they plug in a backup and have elite success. I know he won’t win it. But just throwing another deserving name in. Ravens could hand to Henry and make playoffs and lose first game without Lamar. Bills who knows that div blows
Posted on 1/4/25 at 11:19 pm to whatiknowsofar
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You can't win mvp if you're objectively 3rd best at your position.
John Elway won it in ‘88.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 11:40 pm to Kansas City King
Lamar, it’s not close.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 11:53 pm to ragincajun03
Drew Brees broke the passing yards in a season record in 2011.
Who got it? Rodgers in a great but less impressive season because his team was 15-1.
2011 Stats:
Rodgers = 68.3%, 4,643 yard, 45 TDs, 6 INTs, sacked 36 times
Brees = 71.2%, 5,476 yards, 46 TDs, 14 INTs, Sacked 24 times
Only place Rodgers beat him was INTs and that was because Rodgers focused on stats and took a bunch of sacks rather than make a play that was risky.
So only reason he got it was the team record being better.
So, by those standards, Allen deserves it more.
Who got it? Rodgers in a great but less impressive season because his team was 15-1.
2011 Stats:
Rodgers = 68.3%, 4,643 yard, 45 TDs, 6 INTs, sacked 36 times
Brees = 71.2%, 5,476 yards, 46 TDs, 14 INTs, Sacked 24 times
Only place Rodgers beat him was INTs and that was because Rodgers focused on stats and took a bunch of sacks rather than make a play that was risky.
So only reason he got it was the team record being better.
So, by those standards, Allen deserves it more.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 11:54 pm to Kansas City King
I’d love to see Joey B or Saquon win it but honestly Lamar’s season is crazy good.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 11:57 pm to Kansas City King
Burrow
Posted on 1/4/25 at 11:58 pm to Kansas City King
Burrow if the Dolphins and Broncos (unlikely) lose…
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:02 am to Kansas City King
It’s been too long since a white qb won it. This is still America and Allen needs to win it for the good guys
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:08 am to RelicBatches86
Yes it would still be Allen. Because MVP isn’t about all personal accomplishments but also what surrounds you to attain those accomplishments.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:58 am to Feral
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Josh doesn’t have the overall talent around him that Lamar has.
This is what tips it in Allen’s favor for me.
Without him the Bills are a 4 win team.
The AFC East is the worst division in football. They were assured a playoff birth the moment Tua went down.
Josh Allen has played great and is deserving, but acting like they were not the favorites to win their division is disingenuous. There was a brief moment when the Aaron Rodgers/Jets Hype catapulted them to the favorites in the pre season, but after a few weeks it was obvious the bills would win the division for the 5th time in a row.
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