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re: Jordan scored 40+ pts in the playoffs 38 times

Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:27 am to
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:27 am to
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Pistol doesn't have the length or physical ability to pass the ball like Lebron. Then add that Lebron might be the smartest basketball player(bb iq) to ever live and you have someone who surely is a better passer than Pistol Pete That's not to mention the competition and defenses that each went up against.


Just rub one out to Lebron, get it out your system, then pull up YouTube and actually WATCH Pistol Pete pass then get back to us.

But hurry before you have to rub another one out and get sperm bias again.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 10:27 am
Posted by redfishfan
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:29 am to
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Just rub one out to Lebron, get it out your system, then pull up YouTube and actually WATCH Pistol Pete pass then get back to us.


I tend to agree but wouldn't you say LBJ was a more efficient passer? His decision making is what sets him apart IMO. Pistol is my idol so hard for me to go against him.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:31 am to
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I tend to agree but wouldn't you say LBJ was a more efficient passer?


How do you define “efficient passer”? By the ability of teammates to hit shots? Catch the ball?
Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:34 am to
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Lebron only 20 times... discuss


how many assists did Jordan have in the playoffs? I would guess LeBron surpassed him long ago. Discuss
Posted by redfishfan
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:36 am to
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How do you define “efficient passer”? By the ability of teammates to hit shots? Catch the ball?


Making the correct pass/not turning it over. LBJ's decision making is unreal. Makes the right pass 9 outta 10 times.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:39 am to
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Pistol doesn't have the length or physical ability to pass the ball like Lebron. Then add that Lebron might be the smartest basketball player(bb iq) to ever live and you have someone who surely is a better passer than Pistol Pete That's not to mention the competition and defenses that each went up against.


How we know you're biased and subjective AF, I just said LeBron's one of the greatest practitioners of passing ever but the players I listed are better, more creative and fluid, Pistol and Magic would literally shake players out of their shoes same applies to Rondo, Cousy, Penny Hardaway and Larry
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:39 am to
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Making the correct pass/not turning it over. LBJ's decision making is unreal. Makes the right pass 9 outta 10 times.


It’s easier for players with higher usage rates to rack up assists these days when defenses can collapse on players allowing allowing them to kick out easier passes.

Pete Maravich MADE the passes in his day - today those passes are allowed by design to get the ball away from players like Lebron (making them appear “right” or “easy”).
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 10:40 am
Posted by redfishfan
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:40 am to
The game was certainly different. Makes it really hard to compare.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:43 am to
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but the players I listed are better, more creative and fluid
Yeah, probably not
Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:56 am to
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It’s easier for players with higher usage rates to rack up assists these days when defenses can collapse on players allowing allowing them to kick out easier passes.

Pete Maravich MADE the passes in his day - today those passes are allowed by design to get the ball away from players like Lebron (making them appear “right” or “easy”).



so why doesn't everyone do it? People that don't want to admit someone is great always find an excuse why what they do isn't great, when it is
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:57 am to
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It’s easier for players with higher usage rates to rack up assists these days when defenses can collapse on players allowing allowing them to kick out easier passes.


Oh please
Posted by litenin
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:05 am to
Jordan and Lebron are two of the all-time greats and both on the short list of worthy GOAT nominees.

I glanced at a couple of pages of this thread and was reminded that people get way too critical of other's opinions.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
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Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:05 am to
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It’s easier for players with higher usage rates to rack up assists these days when defenses can collapse on players allowing allowing them to kick out easier passes.

Pete Maravich MADE the passes in his day - today those passes are allowed by design to get the ball away from players like Lebron (making them appear “right” or “easy”).



From my view, LeBron's an evolutionary Magic Johnson relative to how he plays the game just a better shooter and defender, his and Ben Simmons' passing is so reminiscent of Magic it's literally scary so when people make the "LeBron's one of the all-time passers" argument I totally get that
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 11:14 am
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:08 am to
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so why doesn't everyone do it?


Does everyone have high usage rates with offenses designed around them?

There’s a reason superstars these days have inflated assist numbers across the board.

Westbrook, Harden, James, Curry etc
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 11:09 am
Posted by Open Your Eyes
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:27 am to
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Just rub one out to Lebron, get it out your system, then pull up YouTube and actually WATCH Pistol Pete pass then get back to us. But hurry before you have to rub another one out and get sperm bias again.


This from the resident Kobe Bryant shill.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:29 am to
What is there to discuss. Jordan is so far beyond Lebron, it isn't funny.
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:35 pm to
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Making the correct pass/not turning it over. LBJ's decision making is unreal. Makes the right pass 9 outta 10 times.


Yet he averages more turnovers per game in the playoffs than MJ and Bird with a lower usage rate than MJ, while averaging just 1 more assist per game than MJ and .4 more than Bird.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 12:39 pm
Posted by redfishfan
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:55 pm to
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Yet he averages more turnovers per game in the playoffs than MJ and Bird with a lower usage rate than MJ, while averaging just 1 more assist per game than MJ and .4 more than Bird.


.5 turnovers to be exact. He’s also way more efficient on offense than Bird. 5 more PPG on just 2 more shots and again that’s with no illegal defense rule that MJ and Bird took advantage off. MJ is the GOAT in my book. LBJ is #2. LBJ also has a higher eFG% than both all while playing more minutes and in more games.
Posted by redfishfan
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:03 pm to
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Does everyone have high usage rates with offenses designed around them?


Doesn't Kobe have a higher usage rate than all the guys you listed?
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:30 pm to
Does Kobe play now? Do these other players play in the triangle offense?

And yes, Kobe led the league in assists for SG for several years
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 1:33 pm
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