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re: Jordan scored 40+ pts in the playoffs 38 times

Posted on 4/21/18 at 9:28 am to
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 9:28 am to
Then why is he not guarding Oladipo all the time?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 9:35 am to
Jordan could def guard one thru four at a high level. maybe Lebron can guard some centres. But he doesn’t guard them often. So the “more versatile”?? Meh. Sounds good but In actuality no Jordan was the better defender.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 9:48 am to
Isn't this about winning?

Lebron's teams have a lower winning percentage when he scores 40+ than when he scores fewer than 40. He obviously prefers to be a facilitator first, but he's also the all time leading scorer in playoff history.

Jordan's teams needed him to score. Their winning percentage was higher when he scored 40+ than when he scored less than 40.

Posted by tigerfan 33
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 9:49 am to
If Jordan had Lebron’s body he would’ve averaged 40pts a game and 20 rebounds for his career. And Lebron would be average nba star in Jordan’s body.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 9:50 am to
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He wasn't as versatile of a defender as LeBron


Did you see the stunt he pulled last night just standing at the other end of the court
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 9:58 am to
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If Jordan had Lebron’s body he would’ve averaged 40pts a game and 20 rebounds for his career. And Lebron would be average nba star in Jordan’s body


, wtf is this shite? Now we're discounting LeBron because he's built like a machine?
Posted by tigerfan 33
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 10:17 am to
No but he’s definitely no Jordan. Jordan would’ve never shopped teams like Lebron. Jordan never once gave up on his team and if one of his teammates stayed down court like pouty arse Lebron does then Jordan would make sure that shite never happened again. Jordan is the best player,and leader of all times. And Lebron is just the best of his era.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 10:26 am to
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And Lebron would be average nba star in Jordan’s body.



Congrats, you have just made the shittiest point ever in the worst sports debate.
This post was edited on 4/21/18 at 10:27 am
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 10:36 am to
These same figs love Magic because he was good at passing
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 10:40 am to
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Lebron drops this series and he just needs to lose four more series in the first round to match Jordan's total first round exits.


MJ
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 10:40 am to
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Jordan's teams needed him to score. Their winning percentage was higher when he scored 40+ than when he scored less than 40.


Link?
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 10:43 am to
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LeBron can guard every position on the court.
I've seen alot of people say this. I mean he can try to guard every position but I've seen him against guys like curry Westbrook and kyrie and 1. He hardly ever guards them and when he does he normally looks foolish. I would say he can almost guard every position but elite guards are really tough for him to handle
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 10:45 am to
What about PRIME MVP Rose?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 10:46 am to
That was many many moons ago.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 10:47 am to
And it was only in a few minutes of crunch time, if I recall.

The "guards 5 positions" shite has been thrown around and romanticized A LOT
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 10:49 am to
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He hardly ever guards them and when he does he normally looks foolish.


Foolish is way overstating that mismatch. Curry and Westbrook can score on anyone but you never have to worry about lebron being switched on to someone. That’s what people mean when he can guard anyone.

Coaches don’t hide lebron for reasons beyond giving him rest on defense. Any offenses hardly attack him in the way teams do to harden or curry (if we are talking superstars that struggle defensively)

Lebron during the Miami days was one of the best two players of all time. It sucks that everyone, myself included, hated those teams because he was unreal
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 10:50 am to
Yah, Jordan’s primarily a scorer as a player, LeBron’s a versatile floor general who distributes almost as much as he scores this stat makes sense
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16050 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 10:51 am to
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The "guards 5 positions" shite has been thrown around and romanticized A LOT
yeah the one that comes to mind the most to me is the first time gs and the Cavs played in the finals and lebron got on Steph and he made him give up trying to guard him and he just stepped away and let him shoot
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 10:51 am to
And yet LeBron’s the all-time leading playoff scorer, not sure why the 40+ pt stat is being promoted
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15774 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 11:01 am to
Yet LBJ has only averaged one more assist per game than MJ did in the playoffs...

A floor general is Magic... a guy that could have scored 30 a game but put his scoring game secondary to facilitating.
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