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re: Joe Paterno will retire at the end of the season per AP
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:45 pm to Rickety Cricket
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:45 pm to Rickety Cricket
JoPa is only devastated because got caught in a coverup and now he has to quit coaching because he lost his power. His real devastation should have been years ago when he found out that his buddy Sandusky was a sick low-life piece of shite, and JoPa should have made sure then to put the kibosh on that sick bastard, but he chose not to.
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Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:46 pm to Lester Earl
quote:It's not. Not going to the police or making sure someone does is wrong. Not getting to the bottom of what happened in his locker room is wrong. Letting someone who he was told did that to a child come around his program with children is wrong. Etc., etc.
how is going to your superiors about something like this wrong?
quote:It is amazing that anyone sees it this way.
What happened afterwards was wrong. Telling them about what happened is not wrong. And it only seems like a horrible decision because of what is now coming out. It's amazing people cannot see this.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:47 pm to CptBengal
quote:
so he can beat the record of most games coached?
It's sad that even know, with everything crumbling around him, he still only cares about himself and his football legacy. He had a chance to make right, recognize what he did and accept a punishment himself for his grossly inadequate handling of this entire situation. But, as he did after hearing about the 2002 incident, just push it under the rug and keep on sitting in the press box, upping those stats. It's a farce and he obviously has no remorse.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:47 pm to Skillet
Well, PSU didn't do any recruiting violations with this so the NCAA doesn't really care.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:47 pm to WDE24
quote:
Not going to the police or making sure someone does is wrong.
agreed 200%.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:48 pm to Lester Earl
Going to your superiors is not wrong.
What's wrong is him not following up on that and not making sure that Sandusky wasn't a child molester before letting him back around the program.
What's wrong is him not following up on that and not making sure that Sandusky wasn't a child molester before letting him back around the program.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:48 pm to WDE24
Lester come on man.
Put yourself in that kid's father's shoes. You confront Paterno:
"What did you want me to do? I told my boss!!"
Yeah that fricking flies.
Put yourself in that kid's father's shoes. You confront Paterno:
"What did you want me to do? I told my boss!!"
Yeah that fricking flies.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:48 pm to WDE24
I have no problem with him going to his superiors. However, when they failed to do anything, he should have pressed them for reasons why and then gone to the police.
However, this would all be a moot point, if McQueary had just dialed 911.
However, this would all be a moot point, if McQueary had just dialed 911.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:48 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
I said you can do one of 2 things that would be deemed acceptable.
That is one of them.
Lester,
I guess it is senseless to argue with you with your view. I just hope your kids if you have any or your family’s kids have better people around them who would do more to make sure a rapist is stopped then what you think is “acceptable”. If you could have any notion of how much damage this does to a child, what damage they walk around with day in and day out every day of their life for the rest of their life, you would think differently. You would agree that anyone with even a suspicion should make sure “EVERYTHING” that could be done to stop it is done.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:49 pm to Rickety Cricket
honestly all of his records are a farce imo because he hasn't done jack shite in the last 5 years or more. All this stuff tarnishes him as a person.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:49 pm to Bubba Hotep
quote:
I have no problem with him going to his superiors. However, when they failed to do anything, he should have pressed them for reasons why and then gone to the police.
However, this would all be a moot point, if McQueary had just dialed 911.
Bingo. The police should have been called in immediately.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:50 pm to Skillet
quote:
JoPa is only devastated because got caught in a coverup and now he has to quit coaching because he lost his power
He would've stepped down regardless of whether or not this happened. Intercollegiate had been talking about the contingency plan since camp.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:50 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
Are you fricking kidding me? It was wrong to begin with.
how is going to your superiors about something like this wrong?
This is where we differ. Schultz was maybe his Superior in name only. He went to Schultz because he knew that Schultz would "handle" it. Why didn't he do to the Chief of PD? Why some guy that JoePa knows to be nothing more than a figurehead of the PD?
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:53 pm to UnclePat76
quote:
UnclePat76
Joe Jr said the Yuengling is on him after he's done in the coal mines. He said this business with JoePa is a hell of a thing.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:53 pm to Nittany Lion
quote:
Maybe I should go ask my 91 year old father-in-law for a base line.
Let's say you are right and he was off his rocker in 1998 and 2002 (which I don't believe for a second he was back then), then he shouldn't have been allowed to remain the coach and be a person in authority at that point. Not many of us are wanting Joe Paterno in jail, but he should be fired immediately.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:54 pm to cyogi
quote:I don't feel this way at all.
McQueary is more culpable than Paterno IMO. He saw it firsthand, refused to intervene, refused to rescue a child, refused to contact authorities and refused to inform anyone but his father about what he saw for an entire day. How did he sleep that night?!?
AS I have said earlier, this is a grad assistant going against a pillar in the society over something that will end up being very he said he said. He handled it the best way he figured he could while keeping his career in tack, by telling his bosses boss and expecting it to be dealt with
and it was not
blaming the red head, basically petrano and the hire ups didn't do a damn thing when this was reported, is absurd.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:54 pm to Nittany Lion
quote:
He would've stepped down regardless of whether or not this happened. Intercollegiate had been talking about the contingency plan since 2000.
or as you said
quote:
He would've stepped down regardless of whether or not this happened. Intercollegiate had been talking about the contingency plan since camp.
So basically, nothing happens to Joe Pa, woo-hoo!
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:56 pm to NATidefan
quote:
Let's say you are right and he was off his rocker in 1998 and 2002 (which I don't believe for a second he was back then), then he shouldn't have been allowed to remain the coach and be a person in authority at that point.
I'm not saying you're wrong. He was nearly gone after the 2004 season. I remember that clusterfk like it was yesterday.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:57 pm to songofthesword
quote:
AS I have said earlier, this is a grad assistant going against a pillar in the society over something that will end up being very he said he said.
Oh, I guess, if he had stopped it and brought the kid with him and immediately called the cops. The kid would have never said anything and no one would believe him.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:58 pm to Maximus
joe pa shouldn't be fired everyone is making it sound like he commited the act when he didn't this business of what somebody else does reflecting on you is such bs
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