re: Joe Pa should have 6 NCs

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What does that have to do with Bama prison shanking you guys?

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Try to follow the thread. Somehow you went from a discussion about Nebraska to Florida dominating LSU in the ‘90’s.

If you’re gonna troll, try to be good at it. I don’t know any self-respecting Florida fan that would dickride Alabama.

I didn't know any self respecting LSU fan who would dickride Vandy but here we are.

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I didn't know any self respecting LSU fan who would dickride Vandy but here we are.

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Damn…you’re just full of great shite in this thread.

Sure bro

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I think people overemphasize the Fiesta Bowl because that’s really the only team Nebraska played all year

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People, mostly SEC rant type, over emphasize Florida because the Gators ran through the SEC, so when Nebraska trounced them....

The legend is elevated because the Fiesta Bowl embarrassment was egg on the SEC Champ.

1995 SEC wasn't 2005-2015 SEC.

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I still believe PSU could have beaten ‘94 Nebraska.

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Maybe but that wasn’t the question. For decades now a lot of people, including mizziobuckeye have put forth this completely and easily verifiable false narrative that Penn St was #1 and got screwed somehow. If anyone got screwed it was Nebraska. Florida started the year #1 Nebraska was #2. When Florida lost Nebraska dropped to 3 and Penn St jumped to #1 and Colorado #2. PSU was #1 for 2 weeks but Nebraska had the most first place votes both weeks. With Colorado #2 it was obvious if Nebraska beat them then Nebraska would be #1 and that’s what happened. Out of 17 polls including the pre and post season Nebraska had the most #1 votes in 12 of 17 weeks of AP polls. Penn St being #1 was a fluke.

Auburn and Alabama have made it so every good season will now be called the national championship.

That phrase use to mean something.

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If 1995 Nebraska had played Peyton Manning or Orlando Pace blocking for Eddie George someone might have made them bleed.

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My original statement was that Nebraska’s option wasn’t easily stopped in 94-95, and your response was that the Fiesta Bowl over Florida was an overrated performance.

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I would say it’s overrated and overemphasized for two reasons:

1. The Fiesta Bowl was the only meaningful game Nebraska played all season. No one cares about Nebraska beating Kansas and Kansas State for the 30th straight time against players no one remembers.

Ten years earlier, Nebraska would have played regular season games against guys like Jamelle Holieway, Keith Jackson, and Brian Bosworth.

1995 Nebraska did not have a great measuring stick other than the Fiesta Bowl. Most of Osborne’s teams faced more challenging opponents in the regular season.

Just to think of a random year… the 1988 team faced Troy Aikman early in the season and lost. What “Troy Aikman” did the 1995 team face?

The 1995 team played a bunch of nobodies in the regular season, so people only look at the lopsided Big 8 scores (which happened every year) and the Fiesta Bowl.

2. Florida (although a great team) was not as well equipped to stop the Nebraska running game as previous opponents. This is a fact.

1994 Nebraska had a better OL than the 1995 group. It had four senior starters, including Outland winner Zach Wiegert. They had a much better FB in Corey Schlesinger, who had a long NFL career. The WR’s didn’t matter because they were never a threat.

And yet they still only had 7 offensive points heading into the fourth quarter of the Orange Bowl against Miami. If the Miami O (which wasn’t very good that year) had just been able to muster a few first downs in the fourth quarter (they didn’t get any) to keep the clock moving and give the Huskers a long field - or connected on an overthrown pass on a Nebraska busted coverage that would have been a certain TD - they probably win the game.

1994 Miami may not have been as good overall as 1995 Florida, but they played them a lot tougher because they were better equipped to handle Nebraska’s style and physicality. The same was true for the other FSU and Miami teams that beat Nebraska consistently in those days.

1995 Nebraska - and yes, they were great - just didn’t face a lot of the same demons that used to give them trouble. No OU, no OOC threat, no conference championship, and a bowl opponent built on finesse.

Much more favorable than most years.

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Sort of an irrelevant statement. It’s a national title game with a month to prepare. Maybe Nebraska was just that good?

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I dunno. If 1996 Florida had played a Big 8 schedule and then beat FSU 52-20 in a bowl game, maybe we would include them in GOAT conversations.

But I don’t think 1996 Florida was as good as they played in the Sugar Bowl, and I don’t think 1996 FSU was as bad as they played in the Sugar Bowl.

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It’s a team sport. That’s like saying 2009 Bama was lucky because they didn’t have to play against Suh.

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Well, it’s better to not play Suh, yeah?

The point is champions of the prime SEC and playoff era faced a hell of a lot more great players than 1995 Nebraska beat.

Who did 1995 Kansas, K-State, and Colorado have who was “dangerous”? The answer is no one. Even the Florida guys were a year away from their peak.

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We aren’t talking about now, we are talking about 1995.

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Yes, when a handful of teams didn’t stockpile all the talent like they have this century.

Teams in the ‘90s weren’t putting 5-6 players in the first round the next spring (and way more than that by the time the entire roster moves on) like some have in more recent years.

National champions today just have to face more elite players who can whip your arse than anyone did in the ‘90s - be it Nebraska or whoever. And it’s harder to beat everyone 50-0.

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That only furthers my point that ‘97 Nebraska wasn’t as good. And they still destroyed Manning and the Vols.

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You’re taking Nebraska teams on their best days and ignoring what might happen if they had played better teams on their worst days.

1995 Nebraska’s closest game was a two touchdown win at home against a 3-8 Washington State team. What if they had played a better team that day?

1997 Nebraska should have lost to a team that wasn’t as good as 1997 UT.

1995 Nebraska did not play a bunch of high caliber teams that could take advantage of an off day or when they weren’t mentally locked in. The big time teams today play several talented teams, and you have to bring your A game more consistently.

I suspect a big reason why Arizona State beat the hell out of Nebraska in 1996 (and I remember watching it the day after my 18th birthday) is they were a lot better than the Huskers expected, it was a super late game, and they just weren’t pumped up for it. ASU played lights out and Nebraska played like shite. And the next week Nebraska went back to beating shitty teams 50-0.

The 1995 team didn’t face an unexpectedly good opponent on the road in a night game with a case of the red arse. ASU had a few veteran players like Jake Plummer, Keith Poole, Juan Roque, Derrick Rodgers, and Pat Tillman - and they were ready.

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I never argued that. Comparing athletes in 1995, to those in 2019 is foolish.

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I am comparing the caliber of player from the era.

Did 1995 Nebraska face the mid ‘90s equivalent of Tua, Hurts, and Lawrence? Hell no.

Did 1995 Nebraska face the mid ‘90s equivalent of Devonta Smith, Jerry Jeudy, Henry Ruggs, CeeDee Lamb, Jaylen Waddle, or Tee Higgins? Hell no.

Did 1995 Nebraska face the mid ‘90s equivalent of Najee Harris or Travis Etienne? Hell no.

Did 1995 Nebraska face the mid ‘90s equivalent of Andrew Thomas, Jedrick Wills, and Alex Leatherwood? Hell no.

Did 1995 Nebraska face the mid ‘90s equivalent of all those Alabama and Georgia bad asses on defense? Hell no.

1995 Nebraska’s opponents were a cakewalk compared to what those 2020ish LSU, Bama, Georgia, and Clemson teams had and faced.

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1973: 12-0 #2 AP Won Orange Bowl

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LSU played them in the Orange Bowl that year. A 9-2 Tiger squad outplayed them, outgained them by 100 yards, held Heisman Winner John Cappelleti to next to nothing rushing - but Penn St. hit one big pass play and the Tigers went for a TD right before the half at the Penn St. 2 and did not get it in.