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re: Joe Girardi nailed it
Posted on 10/15/12 at 9:14 am to Bho
Posted on 10/15/12 at 9:14 am to Bho
Wow, I totally sympathize for a team with a history of receiving outrageous homecooked calls - Jeffrey Maier, Chuck Knoblauch's phantom tag, Reggie Jackson's fat arse- and that can't score a run despite an astronomical payroll of stat-stuffing superstars poached from other teams despite playing in a gimmicky little league ball park
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Posted on 10/15/12 at 9:24 am to SOCAL TIGER
The umps are only human, but replay would help especially in the playoffs.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 9:30 am to REG861
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Wow, I totally sympathize for a team with a history of receiving outrageous homecooked calls - Jeffrey Maier, Chuck Knoblauch's phantom tag, Reggie Jackson's fat arse- and that can't score a run despite an astronomical payroll of stat-stuffing superstars poached from other teams despite playing in a gimmicky little league ball park
I don't think anyone wants you to sympathize with the Yankees and you are right that many big calls have gone their way over the years. However, if you don't realize that there is a huge difference in a 1-0 game and a 3-0 game and the way you manage that, you probably shouldn't give an opinion on the matter as it makes you look uninformed.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 9:32 am to SOCAL TIGER
Yes, it's a conspiracy against the Yankees. Cry me a river, Joe. If only the Yankees could catch a break.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 9:34 am to Baloo
Baloo, being the great baseball mind that you are... you can't tell me that you don't want to see the correct calls being made, especially in the playoffs.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 9:34 am to Bho
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I don't think anyone wants you to sympathize with the Yankees and you are right that many big calls have gone their way over the years. However, if you don't realize that there is a huge difference in a 1-0 game and a 3-0 game and the way you manage that, you probably shouldn't give an opinion on the matter as it makes you look uninformed.
Yea, it was a bad call and maybe they should introduce replay in the playoffs. Yankee hating aside, that's not why they lost, and neither is losing Jeter. A bad call went against them, but if they could hit worth a damn and score some runs, maybe they wouldn't have lost. 3 runs or 1 run, you're going to lose when you score zero runs
Posted on 10/15/12 at 9:39 am to Bacciagaloop
Hey, I want 1996 and 1997 back. No one even talks about how hellaciously screwed the O's got in the 1997 ALCS by Hirschbeck's inability to see a ball being bunted.
Oh, but the Yankees get slightly inconvenienced by a bad call and suddenly it's a problem? Welcome to the rest of the world. Yankee fans can get in f'n line.
I hate baseball right now (I literally can't watch -- I didn't see any baseball since Friday... I hope you understand)
Oh, but the Yankees get slightly inconvenienced by a bad call and suddenly it's a problem? Welcome to the rest of the world. Yankee fans can get in f'n line.
I hate baseball right now (I literally can't watch -- I didn't see any baseball since Friday... I hope you understand)
Posted on 10/15/12 at 9:40 am to REG861
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that's not why they lost, and neither is losing Jeter. A bad call went against them, but if they could hit worth a damn and score some runs, maybe they wouldn't have lost. 3 runs or 1 run, you're going to lose when you score zero runs
You are probably right that that isn't why they lost. However, it is stupid to say that call didn't change or have an impact on the game. Not saying that you specifically said that, but the post that I initially responded to did.....so that's why I responded to them.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 9:50 am to lsutigers1992
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He doesn't remember when the Yankees benefitted from a similar call in the 2002 ALCS vs, the Red Sox.
???
Posted on 10/15/12 at 10:18 am to SOCAL TIGER
will that lame infield fly ruling get things changed???
nope and neither will this.
life isn't fair and neither are games that are put on for enjoyment
nope and neither will this.
life isn't fair and neither are games that are put on for enjoyment
Posted on 10/15/12 at 10:22 am to stapuffmarshy
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will that lame infield fly ruling get things changed???
nope and neither will this.
That's two completely different things.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 10:29 am to stapuffmarshy
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will that lame infield fly ruling get things changed???
The IF fly rule makes perfect sense and is in the books for a reason. Otherwise, teams would intentionally drop pop ups and turn easy double plays... like they did before the rule existed. I'm fine with Braves fans complaining the rule was inappropriately applied, but when they attack the rule itself... it's just a new level of whining. The rule exists for a reason, and it's a good rule. It's one of the earliest rule changes because it's such an obvious way to scam the intent of the rulebook. (The modification of the foul ball rules is probably the most important early rule change).
Posted on 10/15/12 at 10:29 am to Bho
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You are probably right that that isn't why they lost. However, it is stupid to say that call didn't change or have an impact on the game. Not saying that you specifically said that, but the post that I initially responded to did.....so that's why I responded to them.
In a normal game, sure. The Yankees don't change their approach though. They just watch a couple strikes then swing at one in the dirt. They haven't hit a thing this post-season. If you take out Jeter, they're batting .190. 44 hits, 24 walks, and 57 Ks.
That shite isn't gonna get it done. You can't have 13 more Ks than hits in 7 games.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 10:30 am to Baloo
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The IF fly rule makes perfect sense and is in the books for a reason. Otherwise, teams would intentionally drop pop ups and turn easy double plays... like they did before the rule existed. I'm fine with Braves fans complaining the rule was inappropriately applied, but when they attack the rule itself... it's just a new level of whining.
Yup. I didn't like the application in THAT case but the rule is fine.
This post was edited on 10/15/12 at 10:31 am
Posted on 10/15/12 at 10:33 am to Baloo
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The IF fly rule
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ruling
take note ok. RULING is not the rule.
Everyone who wants these things to be perfect need to give it up IMO. Baseball and sports have survived just fine with decades of mistakes being called.
Instant replay is fine in a very limited capacity. I like mistakes and arguments and teams having to overcome. Stop trying to make everything be "perfect" cause you might ruin what is great about it in the first place
Posted on 10/15/12 at 10:33 am to Srbtiger06
Could that call of changed th outcome of game? Probably but wy Yankees are swinging I doubt they win regardless. I find it funny people bitching about Yankee calls when throughout the history of baseball calls have gone for and against teams but that was before replay came about. Sure the Yankees have benefitted from calls in past but so have other teams. Just because they are the Yankees it is magnified although Baloo has a legit gripe with Maier incident 
Posted on 10/15/12 at 10:35 am to BROffshoreTigerFan
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your an idiot
I love it when this happens.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 10:36 am to tduecen
The missed bunt allowing Grissom to steal home in 1997 was worse than the Meier call in 1996. Forgotten to history. The Orioles were robbed of the 1997 ALCS.
My apologies on the ruling/rule thing. I've seen too many people seriously suggest eliminating the IF fly rule, and it irritates me. I misread the post.
My apologies on the ruling/rule thing. I've seen too many people seriously suggest eliminating the IF fly rule, and it irritates me. I misread the post.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 10:38 am to Bho
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Really? So if it was 1-0 and ARod got the hit. Joe would have run for him. Probably wouldn't have attempted a steal or bunt to get him to 2nd or third? Then a Sac fly and we are tied. Yeah, a 1-0 and 3-0 game are the same.
Arod get a hit???????
Posted on 10/15/12 at 10:39 am to Baloo
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Baloo
nah it's cool, we both love us some baseball....
It always stinks when "your" team gets screwed but frankly I love mistakes, I remember the more than I would "replay" overturns
I mean think about it, some of the greatest Baseball "stories" are because a ump screwed up
it's just a game people, no one's life is depending on the outcome...let mistakes happen and make teams overcome them
I guess you can tell I get hot about people wanting anything to always be perfect and right....life ain't that way so why should sports be???? just saying
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