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re: JJ Watt mic'd up against the Titans - UPDATE: intriguing steroid debate
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:12 am to boom roasted
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:12 am to boom roasted
I've said it before, douche is on steroids, no doubt about it
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:17 am to Lester Earl
quote:I don't know nor care if he did steroids, but you're nuts if you think all of a sudden, he got THAT much better in 1 year with only 1 change, starting steroids.
Yet you could add his sack total from his 2 years at Wisc, and 1st year in the NFL, and not equate to the 20 he had 2 years ago
That doesn't make any sense. Even if that was the year he started juicing, there's still a level of off the charts improvement that simply can't be all the result of steroids. So yea, he did have a "late bloom" on some level, not sure that can even be argued.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:28 am to Northwestern tiger
quote:
've said it before, douche is on steroids, no doubt about it
Every player is juicing. Only way to survive a season
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:47 am to shel311
quote:
I don't know nor care if he did steroids, but you're nuts if you think all of a sudden, he got THAT much better in 1 year with only 1 change, starting steroids.
same can be said about him getting THAT much better without steroids. I think that is the point. Nobody thinks he didn't up his weightlifting, diet, and training to prepare for the NFL.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:07 am to boom roasted
quote:quote:
If you're a Cillian Murphy fan
The Wind That Shakes the Barley.
Yeah he was great in that movie.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:16 am to IceColdBeer
quote:
Every player is juicing. Only way to survive a season
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:24 am to CBandits82
haloti ngata just got busted for roids. So why come he no JJ Watt?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:25 am to lsupride87
JJ Watt has the special juice that no one else has. That's why he's so good. Went from scrub to best defensive player of our generation because of steroids. Wouldn't have even made the league without them. Once Watt's special formula gets out, can you imagine how badass NFL defenses are going to be?
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This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 9:26 am
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:39 am to TheSexecutioner
quote:Well, that's kinda my point.
same can be said about him getting THAT much better without steroids
LE insinuated it could be attributed to when he started juicing and basically scoffed at the notion it was just a freak thing/late blossom type deal. I'm saying, it's more of an unexplainable freak thing EVEN if he started juicing that offseason. Steroids has never made a player that much better that much quicker, just all of a sudden like that.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:41 am to Lester Earl
Why are you acting like he sucked before he got to the NFL? He was the 11th overall pick in the draft and the #2 DE taken. He was an All-American, won the Lott Trophy, and had some of the best combine numbers.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 9:47 am
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:28 am to shel311
quote:
Steroids has never made a player that much better that much quicker, just all of a sudden like that.
Srsly?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:31 am to Lester Earl
quote:
Yet you could add his sack total from his 2 years at Wisc, and 1st year in the NFL, and not equate to the 20 he had 2 years ago
Who cares what his sack totals were in College, he was dominant at Wisconsin and was a mid first round pick. Its not like he was a relatively unknown coming out of Wisconsin.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:34 am to GynoSandberg
quote:Yeh, seriously. No one has ever gone from a "walk on scrub" to the best player in an entire sport simply because of steroids. If so every accountant and garbage man would be sticking needles in their arse right now
Srsly?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:36 am to barry
At 11, I would call him a early first round pick.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:38 am to lsupride87
I'm more confused why it's so hard for some people to give him credit for being an absolute stud. It always devolves in a steroid discussion, as if a shitload of other defensive players in the NFL aren't on juice.
What makes him head and shoulders the best defensive player in the league? Surely it's not just the juice.
What makes him head and shoulders the best defensive player in the league? Surely it's not just the juice.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:40 am to boom roasted
The guy works harder than probably anyone else in the league. The problem? He lets you know about it. If it were only his work ethic that made him a beast, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But the fact that he acts like all his success has to do with everything he does EXCEPT use enhancers just comes across as toolish.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:42 am to SabiDojo
quote:When does he do this? And do you expect him to admit to PED use?
But the fact that he acts like all his success has to do with everything he does EXCEPT use enhancers just comes across as toolish.
"Although I work my arse off day in and day out, although I have a motor that's unsurpassed in the NFL, and although I have a god given talent for this sport, I would really like to thank steroids for my success."
ETA: So much negativity surrounding this dude.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 10:51 am
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:44 am to GynoSandberg
quote:So you think he's the only player on steroids? Why hasn't it made everyone else this good?
Srsly?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:45 am to ZepHead
quote:
HGH is a helluva drug.
He is suspect
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:45 am to shel311
quote:This same question has been raised numerous times in this thread but has been ignored.
So you think he's the only player on steroids? Why hasn't it made everyone else this good?
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