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re: Jason Whitlock: Is Joe Burrow suffering Colin Kaepernick disease?
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:37 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:37 pm to lsupride87
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Now in 2017 before he was popular where he said capitalism was the root of all evil likely was a good tip-off where he stood on things
So this is just a matter of him staying stuff you don't like, and then you tying it to some obscure notion of 'making things difficult,' despite the fact that his earlier opinions did not seem to have any bearing on his legacy.
Do you just have all dogshit opinions all the time?
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:39 pm to crazy4lsu
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Do you just have all dogshit opinions all the time?
Yes
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:40 pm to crazy4lsu
It’s two things
I think burrow has proven to be kinda an idiot
And I think making these political stances doesn’t help on in their career
I still will always cheer for him because what he did for lsu. None of the above matters to me in relations to watching him throw a football
I think burrow has proven to be kinda an idiot
And I think making these political stances doesn’t help on in their career
I still will always cheer for him because what he did for lsu. None of the above matters to me in relations to watching him throw a football
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:43 pm to lsupride87
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And I think making these political stances doesn’t help on in their career
It doesn't hurt either unless you are like Ali and have the conviction to sit out. Burrow making a pretty non committal Instagram post doesn't mean a damn thing.
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None of the above matters to me in relations to watching him throw a football
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burrow has proven to be kinda an idiot
Well it should matter, because idiots have shown a propensity to not be very good qbs despite their arm talent.
You're an absolute clown
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:48 pm to lsupride87
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I think burrow has proven to be kinda an idiot
So have you, if your inability to form any sort of cogent argument in this thread anything to go by.
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And I think making these political stances doesn’t help on in their career
Please give me a specific and precise example of a player where the political opinions had any bearing on their legacy.
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None of the above matters to me in relations to watching him throw a football
Dumbass, I'm not questioning your fandom. I'm questioning the content of your argument, as in I don't believe you when you say it will make 'things more difficult,' when there are several notable examples of American athletes taking stands that were relatively unpopular (especially in the American South) which have had no bearing on their legacy.
Your ability to make connections is reminiscent of a toddler. It's impressive to then look down on someone as an 'idiot' when you can barely understand an argument you yourself make, with the implication being that your opinions on these political matters, vis a vis Joe's statements, are obviously the political thoughts of some savant who dares to grace us with his opinions.
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:51 pm to crazy4lsu
I think adding anything to where you get outward hate from millions of people as something that makes everything in life more difficult. Athletes are humans, and I think it absolutely has a negative effect on them. Not putting yourself on that platform makes things easier. Are there exceptions life everything in life? Or course, but as a general rule it isn’t going to help
And acting like it’s simply “hating anyone who disagrees is so stupid”. There are disagreements and opinions in life that vary between intellects. Certain things make one an idiot
Kyrie thinking the earth is flat makes him an idiot. “Oh so he is dumb for having a different opinion?” Yeh, he is there
Thinking you need to make a public emotional statement of support to an entire race when a knife wielding man tries to murder the woman he raped previously, is idiotic.
And acting like it’s simply “hating anyone who disagrees is so stupid”. There are disagreements and opinions in life that vary between intellects. Certain things make one an idiot
Kyrie thinking the earth is flat makes him an idiot. “Oh so he is dumb for having a different opinion?” Yeh, he is there
Thinking you need to make a public emotional statement of support to an entire race when a knife wielding man tries to murder the woman he raped previously, is idiotic.
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:02 pm to lsupride87
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I think adding anything to where you get outward hate from millions of people as something that makes everything in life more difficult.
Joe has barely gotten any backlash from those statements other than really on TD.
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Athletes are humans, and I think it absolutely has a negative effect on them.
Okay.
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Are there exceptions life everything in life? Or course, but as a general rule it isn’t going to help
Again, you are taking the relatively peaceful American political landscape of the late 70's, 80's and 90's as the norm, when sports were extremely political before then. I really don't know how you can say this shite with a straight face without knowing literally anything about the Civil Rights Movement. I asked for a specific example, and you gave me the most milquetoast response. Literally no one remembers how closely Muhammed Ali was tied to the Black Power movement, but I'm supposed to take it on your word that a few social media statements are going to tarnish any potential Burrow legacy.
This is an exceedingly stupid argument you are making and you don't have any precise examples to use, which is why you are moving toward a more milquetoast generality which you can't possibly prove.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:10 pm to lsupride87
quote:It makes things more difficult, it has a negative effect on him, it's not making it easier, it isn't going to help...but you're certain it won't hold him back.
I think adding anything to where you get outward hate from millions of people as something that makes everything in life more difficult. Athletes are humans, and I think it absolutely has a negative effect on them. Not putting yourself on that platform makes things easier. Are there exceptions life everything in life? Or course, but as a general rule it isn’t going to help
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:37 pm to shel311
I’m certain it doesn’t guarantee holding him back, hence why I mentioned Lebron in my very first post on this thread….
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:33 pm to S
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Burrows message makes you uncomfortable so you rationalize him as an idiot. You’re the same as the other side.
I called Burrow an idiot? It seems you invented that in an attempt to build a straw man. That's kind of pathetic.
I definitely disagree with some of things Burrow has said. But, I don't have to pretend that he's an idiot. I'm confident in my opinion and the reasoning behind it.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:35 pm to shel311
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A bit naive of you to think Whitlock actually believes all these opinions he keeps spouting.
I made no such statement. You guys really feel the need to manufacture the opinion of someone you disagree with, don't you?
My only statement is that Whitlock is not a moron. In fact, he's a very smart guy.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 3:26 pm to moneyg
quote:You used the message as proof in the post I replied to, so yes, it's very relevant to know if you believe in the stuff Whitlock is saying to have that take. And if you don't believe it, then your quote I replied to makes no sense, so there's no real logical world where you would NOT believe that statement or you would not have made those follow ups.
I made no such statement.
So you do or do not believe that Whitlock believes/agrees with all the opinions he puts out there?
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 9/23/22 at 3:36 pm to moneyg
These people can’t debate the facts so this is what they do. Nobody should be surprised by this anymore, these people are mindless sheep.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 4:11 pm to shel311
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You used the message as proof in the post I replied to, so yes, it's very relevant to know if you believe in the stuff Whitlock is saying to have that take.
wtf are you talking about
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So you do or do not believe that Whitlock believes/agrees with all the opinions he puts out there?
That's not relevant. But, I think Whitlock is making a larger point and that he's using Burrow to do it. I don't think he really thinks Burrow has the "Kaepernick disease". I do think he thinks the Kaepernick disease is a real thing.
None of that has anything to do with any of the posts I made in this thread.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 4:25 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Because stats say he holds onto the ball longer than most in the league.
Link?
Posted on 9/23/22 at 4:29 pm to slackster
The stats say the exact opposite actually. Only two starters hold the ball less before either throwing or being hit than burrow
Posted on 9/23/22 at 4:33 pm to lsupride87
I know - I posted them on here last weekend.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 5:20 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Honest question. How do you quantify this? Just by sacks?
Because stats say he holds onto the ball longer than most in the league.
Between the three new O-lineman, there are 219 regular-season games played and three Super Bowl rings to go around.
Much like last year, the OL is giving up pressure at slightly worse than average, yet Burrow's sack rate is nearly dead last in the league.
For comparison, in 2021, Allen got pressured slightly more than Burrow, yet his sack rate was 60% lower.
A big part of that is due to the QB's lack of being able to recognize what the defense is doing.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 5:24 pm to cubsfan5150
Allen being a monster and maybe the best rushing QB ever has a lot to do with that as well
Allen isn’t as fast as Vick or Lamar, but he can run between the tackles and still had enough speed to also run outside. It’s just stupid
Allen isn’t as fast as Vick or Lamar, but he can run between the tackles and still had enough speed to also run outside. It’s just stupid
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 9/23/22 at 6:32 pm to moneyg
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That's not relevant.
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